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| Widnes: 42 Leigh: SUCK MY BALLS
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| Quote ="Leyther_Matt"Fair point. Just a little taken aback as from the outside you seem a side bang in form, and the pressure is on us to keep chasing Fev.'"
It's probably right, that's what it looks like as we have had a run of wins and we've gone up a few places. However, it's the nature of those wins that leads to the realistic views on here. Closely fought, plucky victories against sides at the bottom end that Leigh and Fev regularly rack up decent scores against. OK, a win against Batley was a good result, but again, the nature of that game was that we were about 12 inches away from a draw. (Late penalty attempt from them fell short by about that amount after the ref had actually picked up the kicking tee and moved it back as the kicker was trying to steal a metre or so!).
Also factor in our rather pedestrian one up the middle style and you get a general feeling that we are a 3rd/4th place team. We win games by flashes from individuals, rather than being a well coached, drilled team. Some of our organisation when attacking is shambolic, other times we look like it's 1989 all over again.
Saying that, if we get a game this season where all our players put in performances they are capable of I think we could actually beat Leigh and Fev. Sadly, I've just never seen this happen since the first 60 mins of the Fev away game in the NRC group. It always seems that half the team have a nightmare and the other half pull stuff out to win the game - that will work against bottom half teams, but not the top ones. And it's not the same players week in week out, it's right across the team. Players look like world beaters one week then have a shocker the week after.
It's an odd season and will probably have a few twists and turns left in it yet.
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| Quote ="The Unknown Chemic"It's probably right, that's what it looks like as we have had a run of wins and we've gone up a few places. However, it's the nature of those wins that leads to the realistic views on here. Closely fought, plucky victories against sides at the bottom end that Leigh and Fev regularly rack up decent scores against. OK, a win against Batley was a good result, but again, the nature of that game was that we were about 12 inches away from a draw. (Late penalty attempt from them fell short by about that amount after the ref had actually picked up the kicking tee and moved it back as the kicker was trying to steal a metre or so!).
Also factor in our rather pedestrian one up the middle style and you get a general feeling that we are a 3rd/4th place team. We win games by flashes from individuals, rather than being a well coached, drilled team. Some of our organisation when attacking is shambolic, other times we look like it's 1989 all over again.
Saying that, if we get a game this season where all our players put in performances they are capable of I think we could actually beat Leigh and Fev. Sadly, I've just never seen this happen since the first 60 mins of the Fev away game in the NRC group. It always seems that half the team have a nightmare and the other half pull stuff out to win the game - that will work against bottom half teams, but not the top ones. And it's not the same players week in week out, it's right across the team. Players look like world beaters one week then have a shocker the week after.
It's an odd season and will probably have a few twists and turns left in it yet.'"
Fantastic truthful post.
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| I predict Snowy will need a new sig after next week
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| Quote ="The Unknown Chemic"It's probably right, that's what it looks like as we have had a run of wins and we've gone up a few places. However, it's the nature of those wins that leads to the realistic views on here. Closely fought, plucky victories against sides at the bottom end that Leigh and Fev regularly rack up decent scores against. OK, a win against Batley was a good result, but again, the nature of that game was that we were about 12 inches away from a draw. (Late penalty attempt from them fell short by about that amount after the ref had actually picked up the kicking tee and moved it back as the kicker was trying to steal a metre or so!).
Also factor in our rather pedestrian one up the middle style and you get a general feeling that we are a 3rd/4th place team. We win games by flashes from individuals, rather than being a well coached, drilled team. Some of our organisation when attacking is shambolic, other times we look like it's 1989 all over again.
Saying that, if we get a game this season where all our players put in performances they are capable of I think we could actually beat Leigh and Fev. Sadly, I've just never seen this happen since the first 60 mins of the Fev away game in the NRC group. It always seems that half the team have a nightmare and the other half pull stuff out to win the game - that will work against bottom half teams, but not the top ones. And it's not the same players week in week out, it's right across the team. Players look like world beaters one week then have a shocker the week after.
It's an odd season and will probably have a few twists and turns left in it yet.'"
I agree, what worries me is that for 55 mins of the Batley match followed the same pattern we have seen all season. The defeats against Leigh, the defeat at Batley and the home defeat to Hunslet were all nothing games where the opposition simply put more effort in, ran harder, tackled harder - basically they wanted the win more than us. It took a shocking decsion from the ref almost half way into the 2nd half for us to come alive. If the players had played with the same intensity from the start, I have no doubt that the result wouldn't even have been in question. We basically gave up in the 2 Leigh games as they racked up 18 tries over the 2 games. If we give it our all and we still lose, fair enough, but from what I have seen so far there's no guarantee that we'll put in an 80 min effort.
We could win, we could just lose or we could get battered, I don't think there is any way of predicting what Widnes team comes out really. Its entirely possible that we'll see one half of fantastic rugby followed by 40 mins of rubbish. If you were a betting man the sensible money would be on a comfortable Leigh win IMO.
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| Quote ="Testy"I predict Snowy will need a new sig after next week
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I will, but there you go !!
I for one wish you the very best of luck for SL though. Lets hope we have 3 good years ourselves and give the dinosaurs something to think about !!
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| Quote ="ste_ody"can't have you beating us in the last game for 3 years (unless we get you in the CC)
38-16 LEYTH
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It's ok, when Swinton get promoted, that can be your derby next year.
As for Sunday every sign there every was is pointing to a Leigh victory. They have been the better team all year round imo and if we are not at 100% we'll get battered. Our lads are capable of doing it but thats where we fall short, we never turn up for the full 80. We just need one of your guys to hold Flynn down, for him to knock on and you guys get a penalty for back chatting in the first minute. This will get them up for it
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| It will be a sad day! As much as the rivalry has been fierce am sure you all will agree ite been the only game toreally fire up the fans for the past few years, i agree with Snowy i will be sad to see you lot leave our league and good luck in SL i hate every single SL club so i will be supporting you lot from my armchair!!
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| Quote ="WHERESYERBALL"It will be a sad day! As much as the rivalry has been fierce am sure you all will agree ite been the only game toreally fire up the fans for the past few years, i agree with Snowy i will be sad to see you lot leave our league and good luck in SL i hate every single SL club so i will be supporting you lot from my armchair!!
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Thankyou mate.If we do ok then hopefully others can get a chance.
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| we need one of your deviant lobbies to take someones head off on the first tackle of the game, then The Kavanator and Steve 'Destroyer of worlds' Pickersgill will be smashing them down like The New England patriots taking on west bank under 8s
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| Quote ="vikingsmurf"we need one of your deviant lobbies to take someones head off on the first tackle of the game, then The Kavanator and Steve 'Destroyer of worlds' Pickersgill will be smashing them down like The New England patriots taking on west bank under 8s
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So that's two of your pack who are any good versus possibly the most consistent pack in the league?
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| Quote ="OFFTHECUFF"Thankyou mate.If we do ok then hopefully others can get a chance.
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| Quote ="Leyther_Matt"So that's just the two most immense members of your pack, all of whom are not just good but awesome versus possibly the most gash pack in the league'"
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| thats just slanderous bile, typical of you deviant lobby munchers
i said nothing even remotely like that.
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| That'll make it propper lobby then, with a beetroot chaser.
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| Widnes 26 Leigh 20,Varks, kav, and penny to have stormers
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| Im being very wary of this game , im not to sure which way the result will go , but i never sit on the fence its to painful, so im going a Leyther WIN ,Mutants 18-Leythers 24,CHARLIE KNOWS.
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| Differences compared to last time we met...........
Danny Hulme
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| Quote ="-VIKINGMAN-"Differences compared to last time we met...........
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| Kurt was a clear missing link in the month or so when we struggled (Inc 3 games vs Leigh). Mellor plays very Sam Tomkins esq, if theirs a gap anywhere that lad will find it and get there!
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| Quote ="charlie caroli"I dont rate Haggerty never did at Leigh,Joe Mellor is class i agree as is Tomkins ,but i feel they may be outmuscled by our Pack ,Penny is good and lightening fast no doubt ,we will have to watch him , not to sure about Crosby ,apparently also a Leyther
,as i said a very close game , but like you VM ,im loyal to my team and predict a Leythers win ,see ya Sunday .'"
If Pickersgill & Kavanagh and to a lesser extent Varkulis carry on where they left off against Batley then there'll only be one pack being outmuscled. They were brutal at times on the Batley pack.
Really looking forward to this one, could go either way.
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| Without wishing to annoy you Widnes fans I expect the bookies will give you an 8 point start. For me though I think the only sensible prediction is a healthy Leigh win.
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| Quote ="Redchemic"If Pickersgill & Kavanagh and to a lesser extent Varkulis carry on where they left off against Batley then there'll only be one pack being outmuscled. They were brutal at times on the Batley pack.
Really looking forward to this one, could go either way.'"
The form Pickers is in i'd back him against anyone tbh, Kav has somehow managed to step up and Varks is just a machine, an important factor is getting the balance of the interchange right IMO as when Pickers & Varks were off against Batley we lacked a little bit of true grit in the middle.
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