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| Quote ="Pepe"No, it's got love all to do with the LSV. AT, and the rest of the Leigh board, knew full-well about the lack of other revenue streams the club would have even before they moved in there. Despite this, they still submitted evidence to the RFL that they would be able to make up the 10% shortfall. Clearly, as you admit, the lack of alternative income, via food and beer sales, &c, would actually have made this nigh on impossible to achieve. Then why, in Hell's name, tell the RFL that they could increase their income, when they clearly couldn't?
They were trying to get an advantage that they just didn't deserve or have any right to. I call that cheating.'"
Turnover not income
But fair enough if you see it as cheating , you are entitled to that opinion
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| Quote ="rufustanner"You need to ring the club up, you have a mathematical acumen that Leigh Centurions do not.'"
Yes I have tried to explain to them , when all they talk about is cutting costs , rather than increasing turnover and income , but there you go , they know best , or not
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| Quote ="Pepe"No, it's got love all to do with the LSV. AT, and the rest of the Leigh board, knew full-well about the lack of other revenue streams the club would have even before they moved in there. Despite this, they still submitted evidence to the RFL that they would be able to make up the 10% shortfall. Clearly, as you admit, the lack of alternative income, via food and beer sales, &c, would actually have made this nigh on impossible to achieve. Then why, in Hell's name, tell the RFL that they could increase their income, when they clearly couldn't?
They were trying to get an advantage that they just didn't deserve or have any right to. I call that cheating.'"
In the recorded part of the link thats has been put on the leigh MB Milward says the reason weve been deducted points is because we couldnt pay a bill due to AT businesses going under and he payed the bills.
If iv'e understood it correctly then thats not really cheating .
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| Quote ="bulldog bob"I presume squad builder monies can be used as an extra , as at our team anyway they are run totally seperate from club by BISSA, so are not part of turnover , presume RFL would deem this acceptable , without increasin income in a recession , but I am just guessin Pepe'"
Squad builder is included in SC , if it isn't then things have changed , it is also included in turnover as a donation
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| Quote ="j.c"In the recorded part of the link thats has been put on the leigh MB Milward says the reason weve been deducted points is because we couldnt pay a bill due to AT businesses going under and he payed the bills.
If iv'e understood it correctly then thats not really cheating .'"
Strange one that jc , this is from last years income , not this years
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| Quote ="Starbug"Strange one that jc , this is from last years income , not this years'"
Perhaps ive miss understood it,we here what want sometimes.
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| Quote ="j.c"In the recorded part of the link thats has been put on the leigh MB Milward says the reason weve been deducted points is because we couldnt pay a bill due to AT businesses going under and he payed the bills.
If iv'e understood it correctly then thats not really cheating .'"
He went bust last year too?
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| Quote ="Starbug"Turnover not income '"
Yes, I know it’s turnover, but I don’t expect that the RFL would be looking at overheads as a method of increasing turnover, would they? You’d think that any submission to them, by Leigh, would have been based in increased income?
Quote ="Starbug" But fair enough if you see it as cheating , you are entitled to that opinion'"
I do, because under the circumstances, it is. My team, and others, was playing Leigh while Leigh had increased their player strength illegally. Will I get my money back after watching this fecking sham?
No!
No wonder AT fecked off out of it. The lying barsteward!
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| Quote ="Pepe"Yes, I know it’s turnover, but I don’t expect that the RFL would be looking at overheads as a method of increasing turnover, would they? You’d think that any submission to them, by Leigh, would have been based in increased income?
I do, because under the circumstances, it is. My team, and others, was playing Leigh while Leigh had increased their player strength illegally. Will I get my money back after watching this fecking sham?
No!
No wonder AT fecked off out of it. The lying barsteward!
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Turnover is turnover , however it comes about , and that is how the SC is judged
I will ignore your insult to somebody that has poured millions into RL , if you want your money back pm me your address , I'll send you a cheque
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| Quote ="Starbug"Turnover is turnover , however it comes about , and that is how the SC is judged '"
I know what turnover is. So, do you not think that Leigh's submission to the RFL would have had to have been based on increased income, or do you think that they would have simply accepted increased overheads, and that would have sufficed?
Don't forget that Leigh didn't actually reach the 50% turnover in the first place.
Quote ="Starbug"I will ignore your insult to somebody that has poured millions into RL , if you want your money back pm me your address , I'll send you a cheque'"
Perhaps you could have shown the same respect to Steve O'Connor, before running around every board on here calling him a liar?
You're a fecking hypocrite, Starbug!
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| Quote ="Leyther Always"So whats your excuse to losing to us before last season then
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I'll use anything I can
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| Quote ="Pepe"I know what turnover is. So, do you not think that Leigh's submission to the RFL would have had to have been based on increased income, or do you think that they would have simply accepted increased overheads, and that would have sufficed?
Don't forget that Leigh didn't actually reach the 50% turnover in the first place.
Perhaps you could have shown the same respect to Steve O'Connor, before running around every board on here calling him a liar?
You're a fecking hypocrite, Starbug!'"
He did what he needed to do , it's called creative accounting , maybe you've made another million last year as well , maybe I am a hypocrite , maybe your an idiot
I'll leave it there
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| Quote ="Starbug"He did what he needed to do , it's called creative accounting , maybe you've made another million last year as well , maybe I am a hypocrite , maybe your an idiot
I'll leave it there'"
No you know how it feels and you don't like it. Tough!
Will you be appearing on some of the other Championship boards calling AT and winding them up about how he's disadvantaged their club, as you did with SOC?
Will you feck.
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| Quote ="Starbug"Turnover is turnover , however it comes about , and that is how the SC is judged
I will ignore your insult to somebody that has poured millions into RL , if you want your money back pm me your address , I'll send you a cheque'"
[i"The incident occurred during the 2010 season and was caused by the the club's inability to reach their anticipated levels of income"[/i
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| Leigh disgrace rugby league once again, burn the town down and evacute all people to Wigan and have done with it.
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| Quote ="-VIKINGMAN-"Leigh disgrace rugby league once again, burn the town down and evacute all people to Wigan and have done with it.'"
Evacuate people from Wigan to Wigan? Makes no sense lad.
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| Whenever stargirl's beloved Leythers fook up like the amateurs they are he brings up " O'Connor's creative accounting!' Yet plenty of times he's been asked to back this up without reply and he knows full well he can see the books if he pays the companies house for the servive.
As Pepe has already stated, freaking hypocrite!
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| The funny thing is they still can't seem to grasp the fact of why we could apply for SL and why they can't!
They also seem to think they have been by far the better side over the past few years yet since relegation this is their 2nd final coming up, compared to the 5 we have competed in
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| There's some real bitching on this thread and it's bloody great. Some real tasty backhanders and forearm smashes. But, down amongst all the dregs in the turdy u-bend I find this elloquent gem. . . . . .
Quote ="vikingsmurf"hypocrisy is the purview of the heretic and lights the path to damnation.'"
Wow.
Just wow.
Are we sure the Bard didn't hail from Widnes?
Outstanding.
Anyhoo, carry on with all the dirty low-down venomous sniping. I'm off for some cherry coke and popcorn during this short intermission. . . .
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| Apparently due to the embarrasment they are looking to rebrand themselves away from the Centurions thing...
Ladies and Gentlemen I give you..
apologies for the shoddiness of the work... trying to do the tea at the same time.
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| Meeeeeeeooooow!!!!
Forty-Love.
New balls please.
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