Nat Troll_Aholic is nothing more than a pathetic and envious troll who enjoys nothing more than trawling other clubs message boards for dirt then going back to the other clubs message board to 'report' on what has been said. He knows nothing about the game and has demonstrated time and again that he knows nothing about our club and it's finances. He is a parasite, deliberately trying to stir things up and a disgrace to the decent 'fax fans that post on here.

I think Nat is under the illusion that our accounts posted for 2008 - 2009 somehow doesn't include our 2009 NRC win and that our 'lowered attendance' and lack of silverware contribute (from this financial year) somehow contribute to the figures we recently posted (from the last financial year).

The guy is thick.

Well said (and the part I've not quoted you on). It's great being hated again. I get a warm readybrek glow inside with such satisfaction.

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Vic i must admit i used to get wound up, but now i laugh at it all.We are the best placed team in the Championship with the RFL criteria.So look forward to our application been one of the best.

I am taking time off on the 31st March 2011,to hopefully party at the club.

Do we know it's that date yet? AFAIK it's simply still the same old vague 'sometime in March'.

Who knows with the RFL?

Applications go into the RFL in the next two weeks, so be nice if they decided for Christmas.Santa comes with the best present ever for Widnes fans.

I can't argue with that cockle. I just hope its not the [iIdes of March[/i.




In fact, I might even book myself a flight home that week and get involved!







Now that the RFL has had govt wraps for tackling equality and homophobia why don't we get Elton & David to deliver our bid? Just to add the irresistible cherry on to the top of our application!!

The last set of accounts we posted were for Nov 2008-Nov 2009

Thanks, that's what I meant

.. I've been sipping night nurse all week and it's taking it's toll..

I believe it is a matter of public record that Steve O'Connor set up a charitable fund/trust with the sum of £1.8M in 2008.

That money, in its entirety, was called upon by the Widnes Sport Ltd in the financial year 2008-2009. It was entered as income in your accounts and was used I imagine to service debts among other things (seating? etc), the surplus of this figure is I believe in the region of £1M and is recorded as profit in the accounts for the period in question. Your clubs accounts, like all businesses (e.g. S O'Connors) are a matter of public record and available to anyone.

To be honest I fail to see why Widnes fans are getting angry. Congratulations on having a professional and financially committed chairman. You now have a well run club with a healthy bank balance, in fact I would say its a bank balance that is the envy of British RL as no other club bar Batley (of all people) have posted a profit in years without selling their assets. To get upset by people (truthfully) stating that the profit you declared was due to income received from a trust set up by your chairman seems ridiculous and is no doubt providing great amusement to those who have an issue with your club.

I dont honestly think kev was having a dig at Widnes , when he made that statement , think most of us see widnes as the most professional club in our division , and thats why he made the comparision and pointed out why you had made such a profit to show how well we had done , in wiping out half our debt in one season, and were on course to have no debt come this time next season , so why the rfl had picked on us to send out that e mail , especially as he had talked to inland revenue , who were happy with our arrangements to pay off outstandin money , had him bemused , your books look good for your SL application , as does Halifaxs gate , thanks to a massive turn out from Batley in the last game of the season

good luck with the application

Apparently KN has stated that the RFL have assured him that all clubs are being treated the same......that'll be a first

I think what annoys us Widnes fans is that we're trying to quietly go about our own business but are continually drawn in to other people's arguments. Many of us (myself included) just saw this as someone taking yet another pop at us... Despite my rantings I have no ill feelings towards Batley or any club for that matter. It is the RFL that have brought all this unrest.

There wouldn't have been any loss but for the investment in infrastructure and paying off some of the creditors from the previous board. The cost of this came to £1.2Million. So, if we only lost £1Million then it is feasible that we may have actually made a £200k profit that year, but for the clubs' initial expenditure.

So there you go.

Batley chairman is 'clearing things up' on their total RL forum. Maybe someone with an account on there would like to ask him to clear up his Widnes related comments?

Done it for you. Just cause i like the banter with you mutants


"How are you ever in the position when you apparently made profit last year ?.

By the way Widnes fans are saying maybe get your own house in order before commenting on the profitablity of other clubs.

Their players are registered !!! "

That'll do I guess

QUOTE (distantdog @ Nov 22 2010, 03:47 PM)
Well, it's because last year we made a profit. Does that answer your question?

Oh, and well done Widnes. I am delighted for them, as I personally have a lot of time for them as a club. I am sure they are delighted you have come on here to represent them.
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"Batley chairman is 'clearing things up' on their total RL forum. Maybe someone with an account on there would like to ask him to clear up his Widnes related comments?"

Delighted, Probably as they asked someone with a account on here to do it.

Did you make a Profit by not paying the bills then ?. ( your chairman " the only creditors we have are Hmrc ).
Well done, might as well call you The Batley Crusaders !!! Make profit but not pay the taxman

I like this, Anyone got a widnes shirt, Might swap teams !!, Well actually not next year, maybe the year after

We'll send you a 2012 jersey to the Shay along with Little Rich's (got to save on postage these days)



Be very interesting to see what Mr Nicholas has to say!

Not really. The mock outrage is boring.

I seem to have upset some Widnes fans which i did not intend to do so i apologise.Steve has done agreat job since he took over at the Club as he has invested in facilities youth and infrastructure not just first team which must put you in good stead for a franchise and i also think Fax now have a great new stand and are worthy but Barrow have not spent on their ground so may fall at that fence even though SL in Cumbria would be a good thing.I am afraid Crusaders in my view have let us down by going in to administration and that should go against them but i think not! When i mentioned Widnes you were the only Club who i knew had announced a profit and i was making the point that it was because Steve had put a loadof money in which is true and that i did not expect many Clubs to make a profit which i still donot as it is so difficult.It was harder for us to make a profit which was on the back of a lot of help from our supporters.I would not mind Steve investing in Batley but he is Widnes through and through so thats unlikely!!I certainly do not begrudge your Club in any way.We in fact are grateful to your supporters for turning out in numbers at Blackpool which indirectly helped us as it was a shared gate.We will be paying HMRC so eventually we will get our players registered and look forward to some great games against all Clubs obviously including Widnes.By the way we certainly did not put beer prices up when you came so i donot know where that came from.Anyway good luck and i have now said what i wanted to.

Cheers Kevin, nice to see chairman respond.

ill be coming to the mount to hopefully watch us get revenge for that final defeat!

And guys as i said before Kevin is one of the best chairman around and Batley have some of the best fans around, i think his comments have been took in the wrong way.

Seems to be genuine, in which case thanks for coming on here and clarifying your position. Like I've said earlier, I can understand the frustration of many people involved with clubs in this division. I'm just frustrated myself that the Widnes club all too often is a target for people's ire. We've suffered more than a lot of clubs at the hands of the sports ruling body over the years.

I don't know how anyone can stay mad at Batley anyway - they're everyone's favourite away day, it seems!