a little bit like Tony Smith and Widnes then

We loaned a couple of players from Wire, hardly makes us a feeder club.

As far as I know the void contracts rule was brought in to stop relegated teams who dropped out of superleague walking the league with a superleague squad operating way over the salery cap, Superleage even used to give them a parachute payment of Sky money to help them pay the wages!

read it again V.M. I never said you were a feeder club did I.

I don't think this has anything to do with the RFL. There is the problem with players registration if a club goes into administration but I think in the case of relegation it is between the club and the player to insert whatever clauses they want about contracts becoming void.

This is probably to ensure that the club do not have to continue to pay a SL standard squad in the Championship when they are operating under much reduced revenues and the player has the option to try and find themselves a SL club.

In Leigh's case there may well not be anything about them getting relegated from Champ to Champ1 which is why they are seeking dispensation.

No you didnt, but you implied we were you big tart.

In Leigh's case there may well not be anything about them getting relegated from Champ to Champ1 which is why they are seeking dispensation

True! Yet you'd jsut say that it's there fault for being 'arrogant' if you like!

Similar happened with Newcastle in Prem they had no clauses to reduce wages etc in players contracts (most sides do!) so they are left playing full wack on less revenue!

Remember Bradford City and the Benito Carbone problem they had when they were relegated.

I think it's standard practice now, but the difference between the championship and champ1 should be nowhere near as severe as the gap between Super Leek and the Championship once you've included the loss of sky money, sponsorship etc.,.

And if there was a salary cap in the football league, Newcastle would probably apply for dispensation.

But there's not!

Come on you can't go down and spend more on players then ask for dispensation? To me that is purely taking the pi$$!

You sound like the only reasoning behind your argument is a desire to see Leigh crash and burn.

I don't know the finer details of what dispensation has been asked for, when contracts were signed (signed, not announced), and I doubt that you know either.

One argument given for franchising was that clubs could build over a period of time, which is what we are trying to do. With that in mind, wouldn't the RFL be taking the pi$$ if they denied us any dispensation?

Not at all I like Leigh!

BUT you can't put out a £ side this season go down and say sod it we'll spend a load next year and get dispensation to screw over rest of the league?

Dispensation for who? Paul, Bibey? There contracts don't start until end of this season so shouldn't count! Leigh fooked up this year simple as!

When the contracts start is irrelevant, the fact is they are signed, and we cant just rip them up, even if we wanted to.

The annoying thing is, I don't think there was a deliberate attempt to hold money back and push next season. We spent what money we had to put this year's squad together, and the players we had underperformed.

Next season, the money injected by the corporate club means that we're not in a position where every penny in the club seems to be eaten up by the shambles of a stadium management company.

Aye but 'signed' with the knowledge relegation was a serious threat! So in that case miss management as well!

So should we have found ourselves at the end of the season with next to no players signed up? Wouldn't that be mismanagement?

Stop arguing like Bitches.

Nope you should of put those clauses in

FWIW I'll add my thoughts.

Leigh have completely overinvested in next season. That's their fault and their problem.

I do not see why they think they should be able to operate differently than others next season, they're the ones who have calculated the wrong outcome for next season and it is grossly unfair on the rest if they're able to vastly benefit from that.

Exactly Chris!

What would they do if we signed up a load of players in 2008 and this season just asked for dispensation as... 'we thought we'd be in SL' etc etc!

My thoughts entirely. You can't assume the wrong thing and then hope the world will change for you when you get it wrong.

no need for insults my teacher always told me "name calling is the product of a limited intelligence" no further comment needed methinks

Your teacher was obviously wrong.

the rules are there and should be stuck to, however I really fail to see why the two divisions have different salary caps given teams in both have access to pretty much the same income streams, name any you can find yourself

I may be going against the grain in this thread, but I think Leigh had little choice but to plan for a team playing in the Championship. Especially as next season will be sh/t or bust for several clubs who wish to make a bid. It wasn't clear that they'd go down until the last day, so I do have some sympathy with their position.

Obviously, allowing them a full Championship salary cap in Championship 1 would be wrong, but perhaps some sort of smaller dispensation would be appropriate. Maybe an extra £50k would be enough for them to be able to pay some of their big name players and still have enough to recruit a decent squad?