Harks back to the year Cas went up..............


Get a few people back and once Cullen gets a good month behind him we'll be fine. Looked clueless on attack at times but that will come good, thought Kavanagh and Gannon were our best on the night and Duffy was busy without being great. Very early days yet and we will do them at home. Not impressed by the chav element of Halifax and the constant scouser chants (change the record please).

Still bless em.

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we know.

I agree its very early doors but it does have to be remembered that in 2006 Hull KR didn't lose a league match until top spot was assured and in 2007 Castleford only lost 1 match (which in itself was a massive shock). Even last year, where Salford weren't even that good, they only lost 3 games.

I guess what I'm trying to say is that traditionally in this league, one team goes clear and loses very few games. If the same happens this year its going to be very difficult to compete - you simply have to go to places like Halifax and get the win if you want to top the division. Even though we were proper rubbish in the 1st half and very lucky to even be in the game, by the end of the 2nd half, I was a bit disappointed we didn't manage to win it and it feels a bit like a wasted opportunity. There can't really be any more slip ups and if we do want to win the division, we have to go to the likes of Barrow, Whitehaven, Featherstone and Leigh and get the wins. I suppose with the play-off system, finishing top isn't the be all and end all but I wouldn't have thought that SO'C or Cullen would be thinking like that.

The chavs were very annoying.

I thought they had a cheek - they didn't make a sound in the 2nd half until they scored with a few minutes left - cue "Shall we sing a song for you"

Is there any need for homophobia, really? YSB




Anyhow, in all seriousness, Halifax-Widnes was one of the best matches of Rugby I watched anywhere last season, in terms of ability and entertainment. Had to miss this evening's clash of the titans, due Warrington Hospital not having Sky Sports on the Wards, but by all accounts, both sides showed up quite well for so early on in the season, so I shall keep the eyes peeled for the repeats.

Did Moz take [iThe[/i Flag, btw?

I think this year will be too close for clubs to only lose 2 or 3 matches, there will be a good scrap for the top I recon.

As for 'Cullen Out', I hardly think that the Cullen influence lost us that match. I think it was more about missing first team players and having a bad run out in the first 20. Far too many penalties given against us for my liking.

If only the second half counted we could have won. Having said that I think Fax being part time showed during the latter stages, they looked tired towards the end.

dont really know where you were stood there was plenty of atmosphere. when we were defending those repeat sets in the second half there was plenty of noise.

Probably because your a low end club who got to play the big boys tonight (and beat them

), us posh folk at Widnes mix the prawn sandwich people.

went the game and it was our own mistakes that cost us in attack and defence. the one good thing to come out of that game is that they look beatable.

that ref seemed to be making his own rules up at times.

well you shood try hard next time not to lose to us so called low end club.

so low end you have played us 4 times in 2 years and lost 3 of them you should try sorting that out.

does anyone know why a small group of our fans were waving a cuba flag around.

maybe they were confussed as to which country they were in

Yep. There was a lot of that tonight. Lots of people there that thought widnes had at some stage resided in merseyside which anyone would be able to tell you it hadn't. Frickin idiots!!!

oh my god a set of fans who aren't calling for coach's head after a single defeat? wire fans were calling for lowes to be sacked and booing the players after a run of 8 wins, jesus if only they had your intelligence haha

I think that was pretty much the gamebreaker really, if we had scored in one of those sets I think we could have done a lazarus.

I would think that not concerned sums it up nicely...
We knew we could be in for a defeat tonight and we certainly handed it to them from the very off... a kick that went straight out on the full and then Flynn's barmy offload.

As I mentioned in the other thread I think both teams will improve through the course of the season but I think that we have the greater potential to get better.

The passing was back to painful again last night with the ball thrown in a loop to the player rather than directed and I lost count the number of times the receiving player took the pass above shoulder height.

We looked out of ideas on their line and I think that in time we will develop more set plays for situations just like the ones we found ourselves in last night.

Fax's defence was good but to be honest did we test them? The ball was never moved around and as such we never really created openings. More often than not when we ran the ball in we just ran it straight back into the tackle area where a defending player was waiting with open arms.

We have the talent in Duffy, Thackray, Smith and Webster but it looked uncoordinated last night and they can't do much when they don't have the runners which again I think will come in time and with the correct drilling.

Both teams have limitations. Fax play in spells, with a front row that tires and can be exposed. They have some great flair players around the ruck, Penky, Gov, Black and these players look for QPTB to get you on the back foot, control this area and Fax look average, and against a big pack, Haven, will be exposed.
Widnes lack power up front, if Webster had been playing behind a decent front row he would have ripped Fax's pack to shreds on attack. TKL, well and Doran likes to give those pens away still which is a shame because he is a great team player.
Will be a good league this year, I dont see much between Fax,Widnes, Leigh, Fev, Haven and Sheff/Barrow away are always tough when they are at full strength. Gateshead are unknown, Toulouse/Batley will get better.
Cant see anyone losing less than 4.

Analysis of Halifax & Widnes spot on, I reckon.

Batley are the only team I haven't seen yet.

I think Barrow are going to surprise a few people this year.

Gateshead look a very fit, well drilled team who work hard, just a bit lacking in players who can do anything special.

or wished they were in

Look at it this way we have 4 points.. This time last year we had a minus points tally !!!




Nes

who gives a f uck anyway we cant get promoted, the people are moaning on you would think were 20 games in. 1 game one loss to very good opposition for our standard. CEST LA VIE we will be there come the end so dont worry

They were just Havana bit of fun!!


*Reaches for coat*