With the reported departure of Tex Hoy and the presence of Walker, Litten and Moy, will his departure free up salary cap to be spent elsewhere? If so, where and who is available?

Be plenty available but it won’t get spent. Will go towards repaying AP.

Another player who didn’t buy into
The Culture ?
Why didn’t he just bring his A game every week ?
Likely why he didn’t get a proper playing gig in Australia

We must stop signing Aussies over aged 28 (excessive injuries) and those young players who can’t get a regular first team place ( Hoy Okynbur Pele)

That really limits the pool of players clubs could sign from the NRL, regular players under 26 are hardly likely to come over to SL, there isn't the salary cap space to entice them compared to the NRL.

Our best recruitment was Mini, Manu, Carlos, Pritchard and Fonua, all of those wouldn't have been signed with your rules.

From his first interview here, I never thought Hoy wanted to be here, was using us like Clifford to get some game time and get an NRL gig, he didn't perform like Clifford, so it didn't work out.

I think there is a good player there, but don't think his head and heart was ever in his move to Hull.

Hoy wasn't a Smith signing either, imagine had he not been signed, kept Connor and signed an overseas backrower.

That first interview he did with Clifford at Uni was that bad I can’t believe the club released it to the public

Yep from what I hear Pearson needs a new lamp in his office and has planned in a trip to Disney land. We all know any money saved this year isn't going to be spent on improving the squad.

And he's still not talking to us. Pass renewal is going to plummet unless he gets his act together, and quickly.

Waiting for the right time, going to make 10 new international signings, including 3 marquee players, then make a comeback.

For us to save cash to spend on another player then Tex either has to leave of his own accord, or be sacked.

Simply sacking somebody without a cast iron case is a foolish thing for us to do if we ever intend to ask a young man to travel around the world and play for us in the future - who would be prepared to take the risk ?

In addition, sacking somebody without very good reason is to invite all manner of breach of contract claims - it just makes no sense to take the legal/financial risk.

I rather suspect that "released" means they pay him his contract and he leaves.

If that is true, it does not save us a penny and means we are without the services of one of our better players.

Genius.

I too never felt like he was 100% committed, his first few games he was good then after that fell off the cliff. Dont remember him taking the ball in much at all in recent times. Even on Saturday he didnt run the ball he gave it to an 18 year old kid to run in , although the mistake that followed wasnt Hoys doing.

Makes sense hes the first to go with others that can play full back. Smith should be doing alot better but I do share his opinion to a degree that some of the players just dont seem to be holding there end of the bargain or not good enough to do what he wants them to do. Lets get rid of those.

The initial reports said "offered to other clubs" although I can't see many who would be willing to take him and have quota space available. To me that reads they are not sacking or paying him off, at least in full so who knows ?

All in all a sad state of affairs and with the social media comments from his Dad and his previous "likes" played out far too much in public. Like you say with our past record its going to make it harder to sign players from overseas.

Despite I'm told our Hull daily mail reporter asking 'numerous times' for an interview with either him or the Chief Executive.

If Pearson and Clarke truly back Smith then they need to show up from now. Let him wield the axe back his recruitment and if its still a show then get rid.

Its no secret Smith should be doing better, but it makes no sense to me why all of a sudden he comes here and is getting the worst results if his coaching career. People may say his time has gone but it doesnt plummet to this level. He needs a better cap to work with even though in my opinion we should be looking elsewhere.

so hoy is considered surplus to requirements.hes been up and down and maybe bit of an attitude,but hes still one of hulls better attackers and is at least available for selection,yet we are quite happy that carlos will be sat in the stands the next 3 or 4 months .this club is a joke

All just seems very wrong particularly when both aren't showing their faces in the slightest which for shows a lack of respect to the clubs fan base and sponsors alike who have backed the club & Adam himself without question for long enough. Unfortunately now is the time that Adam himself has to front up and speak to the lifeblood of the club as his continual refusal to address things is just driving fans and sponsors away.

If Clark was to now pop out from wherever he is hiding I don't think he'd be given the time of day and quite rightly based on his record as the CEO and again the fact he's gone in to hiding and the lack of communication that comes from the club other than 'merchandise' releases and offers.

Bit of a strange one but we don’t know what goes on behind the scenes,he may be a crap trainer/attitude and be bad to be around?….i won’t hold my breath for anyone coming in but you never know.

Tbf as well….not exactly ripped the trees up has he…magic wkend was his best game but apart from that and we are well covered at FB and people said about him at 6 but again a player out of position which Smith has been accused off all season.Wonder if this is why we pulled the plug on the Sam Royle alleged signing…we had to free up money.

He’ll go well as a utility back in a better side, there’s an SL fullback in there I’m sure, he just needs to drop the attitude and earn it.

Best of luck to him.

I know the team were poor again but Hoy one of our biggest earners was awful.
Out of position, just didn’t look interested.
His stats for last season make grim reading too.
Moy showed more effort and application.
Really don’t like criticising players and understand it’s not easy coming over from Australia.
In saying that Okunbor doesn’t even look like a rugby league player.
My big toe has more aggression.
We just seem to sign bang average Aussies when we could pick up players from the championship.

Pretty fair assessment really. For me Tex Hoy for whatever reason has never really looked like a player that wanted to be here or happy. I do think there is a player in there but he just doesn't and hasn't shown enough to warrant him taking up a quota spot or space on the cap. I think sadly the same can be said for Okunbor who really does look a dud so far and honestly don't see him improving.

So we have Hoy going, Okunbor who doesn't look like he'll cut it and Carlos who spends more time of the treatment table than the six million dollar man. All of which taking up quota spots and frankly they are just not good enough.

Recruitment especially from overseas since 2018 has been awful. This needs to change urgently.

Hoy has looked good at times but not often enough and when you fall out with the coach it's never going to end well.

I see Hoy Snr is at it again

"The match review panel should be charging Tony Smith for his <poop> coaching, having no people skills, manipulating the club and the media"

I do have a degree of sympathy here for Tex Hoy.
I've always had the feeling that he is one of those 'confidence' players, one who maybe needs an arm around the shoulder on a regular basis in order to get the best out of him.

I do wonder what he would look like in a better side, one which is on the front foot a little more and could therefore exploit his skills better than we have. It would be interesting to see how he went in a team like Leeds who tend to play a fairly open expansive game. Used correctly I still think he would be a worthy addition to most SL sides (but not us!).

I know some on here will say it should be up to him to 'knuckle down' and do the job he's paid for, but it's a two-way situation. Yes, the player has a responsibility to work hard, but the club (specifically the coaching staff) also have to create a working environment which will get the best out of the players, as in any workplace. I doubt whether going to work at Hull Fc is a particularly enjoyable or inspiring environment right now.

Wrong player at the wrong club at the wrong time would seem to be the epitaph to his time with us. Let's face it, if any of us (whatever our occupation is/was) were working for a company and the prospects for advancement were looking decidedly shaky, I think virtually all of us would cast around for better employment opportunities. Why should a professional sportsman be any different in that regard?

To me Hoy leaving the club is symptomatic of wider issues currently surrounding us. The way the club is being run, the direction of travel (downwards and backwards basically), an everyday work experience which is probably dull and uninspiring, an overall feeling that this is a club/company going nowhere.
Who, given those circumstances, wouldn't want to move on elsewhere?

seen that aswell, also going back and forth with fans in the comments

2 NRL signings and possible domestic recruits incoming according to the YP which suggests Carlos being released, or Okunbor. Or, it could be a British player coming from NRL