So after a much improved performance on Fri it's Leigh up next. We have to keep intensity up. Big game IMO . Leigh won't be a pushover but it's a game we got to be winning. Could be a few back to. COYH

Our intensity is key. If we play with the same intensity as Friday we'll win more than we lose this year but being consistent with our intensity has been the big issue over the last few years.

Not to be too dramatic but it feels like a must win game on Saturday.

Match or be close to the intensity we played against Saints and we'll win.

Carlos, Mitch and Sutcliffe could be in the squad

I think its absolutely a must win game for us on Saturday, with all due respect to Leigh this is a game that we really should be winning. An effort like last Friday should see us home, however fall back into bad habits like the Salford game and we could be in big trouble.

100% a must win game, if we want to move away from the bottom and towards the play offs. Lose this and with tough games against Warrington and Rovers, I would be nervous.

No bans just a fine for Litten

Yep I agree, have to win this game at home against one of the sides that we need to take points from, Leigh have shown that they are no mugs this season so far so its not going to be as simple as just turning up.

We need the same intensity, desire and line speed we saw against St's for the majority of the 80 mins and the first 40 against Cas and Leeds. Anything less and we could well be facing another loss, they have shown what they can do when they apply themselves but doing that consistently & backing up decent performances has been the issue for a long time.

Hopefully Sutcliffe, Carlos, Mitch and McNamara will be back. which will allow Smith to move Griffin back to 2nd row and drop Lane along with Lovodua.

We'll win based on what ? We lost to saints leigh beat them

we shouldnt be bringing Tuimavave straight back in without any competitive games behind him.
Look what happened to Savelio.Was well off the mark for two games.
We dont have any easy games to be playing players back into match fitness

Need to be winning this game but another banana skin imo . Leigh have played well in patches of games so far so we need to be 100% focused .

Last year with about 6 games to go I said
Wakefield away was a
MUST WIN and no one agreed yet the massive loss was exactly why it was a must win.

Leigh a must win ? c’mon man

First must win is Hull KR at Easter !!!
that’s a must win

Leigh isn’t a must win but losing will
be bad for confidence leading up to KR fixture

For what it’s worth I see a loss as this team have such a soft under belly presently

Cannot go into the derby with 5 game losing streak .

On paper, the points should be yours, but looking at both teams opening games its more of which team turns up on the night.

Tough call to make.

Can't go into any game with that sort of losing streak

But why rovers? I'm more interested in beating the big guns not a minnow

The improved effort of last week means nothing if it doesn’t turn into points this week. We can’t really talk about being interested in beating the big guns when we’re sat 10th after five rounds.

Indeed - in fact if Cas overturn Warrington on Friday we'll go into Saturday's game next to bottom.

And if we lose to Leigh ( and they shouldnt be underestimated) there will still be people on here that think the likes of Taylor and Griffin should be given contract extensions.
Please Hull FC no more sentiment.
Having 20 players off contract at the end of the season is such bad management but then we have seen it before with long contracts handed out to players.
We have to hope Pearson and Clark have at least learnt some lessons and get this rebuilding right.

So, in effect, you're saying that should we lose it will be down to Taylor and Griffin. You're like a singer who only knows one song.

Paul Cooke writes a great article on FC last week and Leigh match

for me - dump at least 17 of the 20 players ooc at end of season !! keep the best 3 and the 17 , regardless of who they are can just fook off for me

Agree need a mass clear out no matter what

The only players I would keep are hoy, Clifford, Sutcliffe, satae, dwyer, fash, Trueman, swift, mitch

The rest I would let go ( obviously some are tied to contracts ) but any of the others out of contract should be bye bye

Do people really think we can just sign 17 players of better quality than we have, that's near impossible, look at the OOC players list, very little quality available and some of the ones that are OOC won't sign for us.

We need to realistic in the recruitment, target 4 players who will really improve our 17 and add in a couple more for the squad. This might mean we need to keep a couple for another year than normally we would replace.

I think Simon Jordan has done a great job in backing Powell at Wire in breaking up an aging team and bring in fresh blood . I'm hoping Pearson can let TS do the same . Not going to be easy as there is other clubs (Cas been one ) with a big roster to rotate .

I can understand where Bonaire is coming from in terms of getting rid with a mass clear out which I agree is needed. However I also see Dave K’s point in that with such a high number of players that A, we need rid of and B, are out of contract unfortunately the player pool available is relatively small and hardly full of quality. I think the likes of TS and AP have to be really smart and target a small number of quality players that are an upgrade and will also improve us for the 2024 season. Then most likely promote from within, possibly a couple of players from the championship and extend a few deals to supplement things. We can’t just go out and get 12 or more players as it just isn’t that easy.
Can’t argue with Bonaire in his summary of the state of our recruitment/retention policy and how we could have allowed to have up to 20 players OOC is rank mismanagement.
I think 2 forwards at least 1 top quality 2nd rower, possibly another hooker and a winger with genuine pace are a minimum requirement. Ideally I’d like a lot more but we have to be realistic. I’d hope that wheels were put in motion if not already underway in terms retention/recruitment as soon as BH was removed and TS approached with deals for new players for 2024 already agreed or at advanced stages.
Hopefully AP has learned from the mistakes made since Motu left, time will tell as they say.

Agreed, they seem to have got recruitment right, but they only brought in about 5/6 players to improve their 17, they didn't do a major overhaul like some are suggesting we do and would be virtually impossible without making the squad worst.