I think we’ve probably got a decent record recently of releasing players, Watts excluded, but have we made a mistake with Jez, he’s looked very good for Rovers, and seems to be holding his own with Parcell.

Not convinced TBH. I wanted him to do well at Hull but not strong enough defensively. Scoots look good but not seen anything more that makes me feel gutted he left.

i personally think litten is developing into a very good player and radford let him go a bit to soon,, hes better than johnstone im glad weve got him but i suppose time will tell but he has improved his all round game as hes got older

Sometimes it's just how it is with young players. Josh Hodgson barely got a look in for us, Rovers let Cator go etc depends who else is in the squad at the time and the style of player. Radford preferred physical players and didn't fit the style.

I would, of course, expect you as a Rovers supporter. to say that.

dosent matter where he came from just a rugby opinion on a forum pal

I wouldn't fret

Joe Cator though!

what odds on coming back in a few years once houghton retires, johnstone already a good replacement, could compliment each other

I’ve watched Jez since he played under tens at West Hull, I think moving was probably the best thing for him, and he seems to have improved at rovers, as number 6 alluded to, perhaps a return on the cards, who knows.

I dont think we released Litten, I'm sure it was his decision to leave.

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Yes he turned down an offer from us, it will be interesting to watch his development access the river,

The problem for Litten was similar to Hodgson in that he needed to play regular rugby at a high level but Houghton was an 80min player.

Sometimes you just have to move to advance and develop, hopefully he will become a very good SL player. He never let us down when called upon but was always going to be behind Houghton.

Still think he needs a coupe of years to develop fully and playing regularly for Rovers will help.

Focusing on developing a core of home grown players to help win sustained success in SL (because that is what Saints do), is like focusing on what designer fragrance a Hollywood idol wears in the belief it will make you as attractive as them.

(I’m feeling provocative today).

I think he's improved a lot now he's a regular. His defence was and still is his weakness. I'm surprised how slight he still is. He's explosive from dummy half when the forwards get a roll on. The six again rule suits his style.

As mentioned we offered him a contract but Rovers obviously made him a better offer. That's the salary cap.

What's the alternative? Bring expensive mercenaries in like Warrington?

He wasn’t going to oust Houghton in a Radford team. Fair play to him for making a great career move for game time, but I’d still say Johnstone is the more well rounded hooker.

If you have enough money it doesn’t have to be a choice.

Developing players or wearing the nice fragrance probably helps a bit... even if it maybe costs more than it is worth.

I just feel that the importance to winning tends to be greatly overstated compared with other factors, and the excitement around potential/fear of losing out on it often isn’t sensible. In my head it is filed under JamesGreenPropsDon’tReachTheirPeakUntilTheyAre28Fallacy.

Jez Who?

Signed a three year deal.

Found his level at KR just like Abdull & Hadley

I liken Litten at Hull and would have liked to see him get more opportunities at Hull, but it wasnt going to happen under Radford. I've seen him in a few Rovers games, has a great quick scoot which will work now and again against tired defences, but not sure he has the all around game or size to make a top hooker like Hodgson became.

I do think we need to sign another hooker as Houghton and Johnstone are too similar, JJ will take over from Houghton at the end of next season, so if we dont have a young hooker coming through them we will need to sign one on the style of Leaming or Clarke, probably from overseas.

Houghton will always be a legend for tackle 52

But for me we'll realise when he leaves/retires how much he holds our attack back

He offers nothing in attack ever

Clark/Roby/mcshane all do loads of tackles aswell but are great in attack

Litten is a decent player I'd have him back

Hadley awful no thanks found his level

Yep