So the government says 25% capacity on 17th May at the earliest so how will that work for us. The costs would be too great no offers by the Allams to open up all areas for FC. In addition how many season ticket holders have we got, I believe more than we are allowed so how is it going to work?

So we should be allowed about 6000 fans then

Let's hope none of our passholders want to attend, otherwise we'll probably lose (more) money.

Yeah, probably not far off our number of passholders? Although could see some challenges around cost if we needed to open the North Stand for example.

I guess "capacity" would also include opening the upper tier of the West stand as well as the North stand.

It’s an interesting point on cost opening more of the stadium, will the cost be that much more? The number of stewards wouldn’t increase significantly due to the relatively low number of fans per area, also I imagine the drink/food would remain closed.
But it’s a positive bit of news none the less.

No, it's only 4000, we are not classed as one of the 'largest' stadiums so the 25%/4000 rule applies, whichever is less, either way it's total nonsense.
Testing, temperature checks and all the other nonsense will no doubt be enforced despite it not being lawful, and it's May 17th at the very EARLIEST, the data even when it's clear is manipulated and fudged by government so they can do what they like and spread more lies/disinformation. Don't be surprised if this date is extended.

Come June covid certification (to supposedly reduce restrictions) is likely to be brought about which MIGHT lift some capacity restrictions, however certification and exclusion on basis of some form of bio status is already unlawful and remains so as per the European Council's decree to reconfirm that just recently.
Worse, no removal of muzzle wearing 'rules' :despite the evidence that muzzles don't do squat CRAZY:

RL clubs are basically stuffed even if they get a few punters through the door for half the season and the World Cup is going to lose a lot of money unless something drastic happens between now and then. I wouldn't be surprised if we are back to full on tiers/lockdown on the back of tests that can't detect infection used to produce huge number of 'cases' that are being falsely labelled as infections and from that falsely attributed deaths with covid like all of last year.

Good luck to the clubs, I hope that those fans that get in really get served up some excellent rugby to lift them and that our team do the business results wise.

According to the information released that I've read any outdoor stadium with a seated capacity of more than 16000 is classed as large

"Oliver Dowden, the Secretary of State for Digital, Culture, Media and Sport, confirmed that large venues can have 10,000 or a 25% capacity, whichever was lowest.
A large venue is defined as having a seated capacity of over 16,000 spectators, Dowden confirmed."

So in theory as the KCOM is 24000 capacity so Seb is correct in that we potentially can have up to 6000 attend games under the rules which is large stadiums up to 10000 or 25% of their capacity whichever is the smallest.

“Lose more money” as in Covid deaths? The point about all this is that most of us will have had the jab by then. I received my first last night

plus masks and social distancing will ensure it will be safe, apart from the bloke near me who goes to toilet 8 times a game

There's the actual cost and then there's the price the Allams charge us. Given the price of opening the North stand has been prohibitive I can imagine opening the full stadium with some ticketing/turnstile changes etc (eg is East Stand pass valid for West if we need to spread out?) could be an issue.

What a (very) strange and worrying interpretation.

If all passholders attend there will be no income from the games, if no passholders attend then those that go will have had to pay (like walkups).

That made me laugh for sitting at the end of a row in east Stand central seemed like a really good idea when I queued at the Boulevard for my seats but there are a few in our row who have that issue and the thought of them going by face to face all those times is a bit off putting at present. I guess anyway with social distancing we will all be spread out around the stadium but there will be people who still don't feel safe going at first anyway. It would be useful to know how many seasons sales we have got at present as well. Incidentally I read it as 6000 if we were able to open the whole stadium, but in fairness to that discussion different people in Government seem to have different interpretations of it and then there are always the Allams unique user agreement pricing policy to deal with as well. No doubt the club will be thinking about this as we talk and we'll get some sort of indication soon.

I understand your thinking, but if no structure is in place before limited attendance fixtures, and your hoping for cash paying customers, the club would be at risk of losing the patronage of its most valued members in the future, who have already committed payments.

I suppose they could allow 3000 pass holders, and sell 3000 tickets, Unprecedented circumstances.

I'm not suggesting passholders should be limited, far from it, all I'm saying is the club will lose money if only passholders attend.

Hardly rocket science.

No way will the club sell tickets and prevent passholders from attending.

Oh I see, so your saying pass holders should “for the good of the club” give up their seats for paying customers.

Where did I ever say that?

Crazy.

I probably misunderstood your reply earlier to Armavinit,

If all pass holders attend, no income, if walk ups attend then income.

Not crazy, just misinterpreted.

Its only limited numbers for a month anyway isnt it? June 21st everything 'should' be back to normal according the governments plan

Surely the income is already paid in from members, that money is helping to prop the club up in advance of actual games. That's part of the reward of getting discounted tickets, like buying in bulk at a retailer, you benefit from a lower per item price by buying all the product in one go and before you use them.

So members whom have paid in advance absolutely should get precedence over 'walk ups', I don't see how this should be any other way.

Neither do I, just an earlier misunderstanding in the thread.

it was the 'no income' if only those with memberships were attending in your comment that made me reply, if that was due to previous confusion apologies.
it's commendable to those paying upfront no matter the outcome, but no-one should be left out of pocket even if they can afford it. Some may well be happy for the club to keep any excess if they aren't able to offer a seat for all the games, however a rotating arrangement for full members whom have paid up front would be a fair way to allow people to attend.
With some not being able to make games possibly the maximum number may not even be attained, I wonder if there's an easy way/system that could connect to other fans to attend if those allocated a spot notified in advance they couldn't attend for a particular game.

I am a passholder and am classed as extremely vulnerable, have had the vacine but would probably not be confident enough to attend. There must be many others in the same position. The club could maybe ask passholders to register their intensions to full advantage of the restrictions.

I think it would be sensible to ask for 'volunteers' who can't or don't want attend to inform the club first, people will be booking a lot of Holidays too. Then the rest of passholders who want to go would have to be put in a ballot, with those who missed out on one game getting priority for the next game.

It'll be organised chaos anyway, roughly 3 out of 4 passholders will have to be allocated a different seat.

Can be done by assigning fans a block and making seats unreserved but advise you have to sit so many seats and rows away from the next household/bubble group. And give set timeslots for arrival, if you're late you're not going in.

Some will still go wandering about to sit with their mates they've haven't seen for ages though, it'd be very hard to Police.