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| Same line up just need to swap Griffin for
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| Shaul
Miloudi
Yeaman
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| Think they might put Hadley2nd row, Manu to prop now Taylor out and bring Lane and Washy in on the bench too
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Yeaman
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| Quote ="Ellam"Think they might put Hadley centre and bring Lane in on the bench too and leave Scott out got caught out defensively a couple of times.
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Miloudi
Yeaman
Hadley
Logan
Harris
Connor
Taylor
Houghton
Green
Manu
Mini
Westy
Lane
Paea
Masi
Washy'"
Pointless debuting them if you’re not going to persist. It was just a case of timing, Yeamo was guilty of the same thing. Bring on the youth, well not in Yeamos case
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| If you are dropping anyone from last week based on performance it has to be Yeaman (I wouldn't drop any of those for this game though)
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| Difficult to name a 17 until the 19 is named, given rumours of more injuries. But if everyone bar Griffin is available from Sunday's team then I would go.
Shaul
Sanderson
Logan
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Connor
Harris
Taylor
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Green
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Hadley
Litten
Yes its a very inexperienced and potentially vulnerable backline. But it's preferable to playing Yeaman again or Hadley out of position imo.
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| Quote ="Mr. Zucchini Head"Difficult to name a 17 until the 19 is named, given rumours of more injuries. But if everyone bar Griffin is available from Sunday's team then I would go.
Shaul
Sanderson
Logan
Scott
Miloudi
Connor
Harris
Taylor
Houghton
Green
Manu
Minichiello
Westerman
Paea
Matongo
Hadley
Litten
Yes its a very inexperienced and potentially vulnerable backline. But it's preferable to playing Yeaman again or Hadley out of position imo.'"
I do agree but think he will play Yeaman, Sanderson won't play imo
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| Taylor definitely out.
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| With no Taylor, Ellis becomes a real possibility this week.
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| Quote ="Mr. Zucchini Head"Difficult to name a 17 until the 19 is named, given rumours of more injuries. But if everyone bar Griffin is available from Sunday's team then I would go.
Shaul
Sanderson
Logan
Scott
Miloudi
Connor
Harris
Taylor
Houghton
Green
Manu
Minichiello
Westerman
Paea
Matongo
Hadley
Litten
Yes its a very inexperienced and potentially vulnerable backline. But it's preferable to playing Yeaman again or Hadley out of position imo.'"
Taylor out also apparently with a shoulder injury.
I agree with that backline.Give Sanderson a run.Yes vulnerable but Yeaman is hardly going to make a difference to the result.
I would also try one half with Miloudi and Harris at half back.
If Yeaman plays again it makes a nonsense of Radfords pledge to play youth when necessary.
Watching Yeaman play was embarrassing
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| Quote ="bonaire"Watching Yeaman play was embarrassing'" Oddly, I found the criticism of Yeaman on this forum even more embarrassing.
He was helping the club out during an unprecedented injury crisis.
LR said playing some of the youngsters at this stage in their careers would have done more harm than good, so well done Kirk for having the courage to give it a go. Surely no one was expecting him to be a world beater?
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| Quote ="bonaire"Taylor out also apparently with a shoulder injury.
I agree with that backline.Give Sanderson a run.Yes vulnerable but Yeaman is hardly going to make a difference to the result.
I would also try one half with Miloudi and Harris at half back.
If Yeaman plays again it makes a nonsense of Radfords pledge to play youth when necessary.
Watching Yeaman play was embarrassing'"
There is definitely some logic to playing Harris and Miloudi in the halves to allow Connor to play centre. The back line suddenly looks much stronger if he is in it.
If Taylor is out then I would push Manu to prop, Hadley to start in the back row and Lane onto the bench. Maybe Radford is thinking of Gaz straight in at prop though? But again I don't think it's the right way to go really.
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| Quote ="ccs"Oddly, I found the criticism of Yeaman on this forum even more embarrassing.
He was helping the club out during an unprecedented injury crisis.
LR said playing some of the youngsters at this stage in their careers would have done more harm than good, so well done Kirk for having the courage to give it a go. Surely no one was expecting him to be a world beater?'"
Full credit for Yeaman for putting his hand up and giving it his best, I can't knock him for that. But he was well off the pace. Maybe he will get back into the swing a little if he is going to have 3 or 4 games in a row. But I would thank him for his efforts and get him back to coaching.
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| Quote ="ccs"Oddly, I found the criticism of Yeaman on this forum even more embarrassing.
He was helping the club out during an unprecedented injury crisis.
LR said playing some of the youngsters at this stage in their careers would have done more harm than good, so well done Kirk for having the courage to give it a go. Surely no one was expecting him to be a world beater?'"
No but i expect him to catch and keep hold of the ball
Lane, Turgut or even Washbrook would have done a better job.At least they were match fit
There is no reason to play Yeaman at Warrington.In reality this is a game we will not win with such a weakened team and playing Yeaman will not make a difference to the end result so give Sanderson his chance like Radford has done with Cameron Scott.
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| Yeaman was helping out , it’s ok say play youngsters but you need some experience out there to help them out . For not playing in 16 months didn’t think was that bad .
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| Quote ="bonaire"No but i expect him to catch and keep hold of the ball
Lane, Turgut or even Washbrook would have done a better job.At least they were match fit
There is no reason to play Yeaman at Warrington.In reality this is a game we will not win with such a weakened team and playing Yeaman will not make a difference to the end result so give Sanderson his chance like Radford has done with Cameron Scott.'"
Bonaire having a go at yeamo shocker
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| Quote ="Isaiah"Bonaire having a go at yeamo shocker'"
He couldn't believe his luck when his favourite target reappeared.
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| Quote ="Hessle Roader"He couldn't believe his luck when his favourite target reappeared.'"
He found a new target initially in Griffin.
That worked out well.
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| The cap must be an issue surely to bring Ellis back and play Sanderson won't happen unless we are really short, Yeaman was fine and will carry on doing a job, why would you move Connor who was MOM in the last three games back to centre and play Miloudi ther who is a fullback????? Thought Miloudi did well on the wing.
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| Quote ="Ellam"The cap must be an issue surely to bring Ellis back and play Sanderson won't happen unless we are really short, Yeaman was fine and will carry on doing a job, why would you move Connor who was MOM in the last three games back to centre and play Miloudi ther who is a fullback????? Thought Miloudi did well on the wing.'"
Why would the cap be an issue? I arent the salary cap expert, but I am pretty sure Sanderson won't count on the cap anyway. I highly doubt he is in our top 25 earners, so he wouldn't be counted because he is under 21, and I expect earns under 20k aswell.
Yeaman and Ellis are more of a grey area, but they are paid to be a conditioner and manager respectively. Those salaries have nothing to do with them playing. They might even be playing for nothing. I don't know what the arrangement is.
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| Quote ="Mr. Zucchini Head"Why would the cap be an issue? I arent the salary cap expert, but I am pretty sure Sanderson won't count on the cap anyway. I highly doubt he is in our top 25 earners, so he wouldn't be counted because he is under 21, and I expect earns under 20k aswell.
Yeaman and Ellis are more of a grey area, but they are paid to be a conditioner and manager respectively. Those salaries have nothing to do with them playing. They might even be playing for nothing. I don't know what the arrangement is.'"
Always thought that their non playing salary would then count on the cap. Eg if Ellis earned ÂŁ50,000 a year as head of rugby or whatever it is then that would then count.
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| Quote ="Faithful One"Always thought that their non playing salary would then count on the cap. Eg if Ellis earned ÂŁ50,000 a year as head of rugby or whatever it is then that would then count.'"
That is how I understand it too, the full wage counts on the cap regardless of it being a player wage, as otherwise clubs would give all their players a side-job and cheat the cap. Like how some clubs allegedly had players wives as very well paid shop staff years ago.
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| Quote ="Faithful One"Always thought that their non playing salary would then count on the cap. Eg if Ellis earned ÂŁ50,000 a year as head of rugby or whatever it is then that would then count.'"
I don't honestly know what the rule is, but I very much doubt that's the case. I will see if I can see anything in the operating rules.
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| Just had a skim through. There is a brief and fairly vague paragraph about it which essentially says it is at the discretion of the RFL and they will determine what the players salary cap value would be. It isn't just their wage straight up going on cap.
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| No Ellis and no Yeaman either in the 19.
Sanderson set for a debut. Come on bumpy, let's be having you.
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