Squad:

1. Jamie Shaul , 2. Mahe Fonua , 3. Carlos Tuimavave , 5. Fetuli Talanoa , 6. Albert Kelly, 7. Marc Sneyd ,
8. Scott Taylor , 9. Danny Houghton , 13. Gareth Ellis, 14. Jake Connor, 15. Chris Green , 16. Jordan Thompson ,
17. Danny Washbrook , 19. Steve Michaels , 21. Sika Manu, 22. Josh Bowden , 25. Jansin Turgut , 27. Jack Downs,
28. Brad Fash

Liam Watts, Mark Minichiello and Josh Griffin rested.

Could see a couple more missing out, but not too many.

From that I would go:

Shaul, Fonua, Connor, Tuimavave, Talanoa, Kelly, Sneyd, Taylor, Houghton, Bowden, Manu, Washbrook, Ellis

Subs - Green, Fash, Thompson, Turgut

No disciplinary issues to worry about, but Mr Child is the ref.

people moan about child as ref, but we have won more games this season when he has reffed us than we have lost

Good bit of rotation there by Radders

I don't know where, but I'd find a place for Michaels

Someone said that Michaels wasn't at the Homecoming yesterday?

I would start Thompson with Ellis on the bench.In his words has to pull his socks up so something to prove.
Michaels will play but dont know which wing.Probably for Talanoa who took a knock on Saturday.
May see a late inclusion of Masi

I don't mention him because of the results, I make comment because he's not a very good referee, for any team.

This maybe correct. But I don't think many people believe refs are inherently biased against us. It's the inconsistency, baffling calls and not letting games flow that people get annoyed about. We all loose from a bad refereeing performance.

He was't introduced and I didn't notice him.

Well thankfully he called the Clubb no try correctly by saying there was no clear pulling action on the ball by Tuimavave.
I would argue some video refs would have awarded that try even though the referee quite rightly said no try.

They rarely overturn the decision of the referee, they have to feel there's good reason.

Leeds first game without the south stand open of course. wonder where the drum will be located?

Up the drummer's 4rse hopefully

I'm surprised radford isn't resting more players TBH. I just can't see us getting anything from Thursday's game and it would have been better to rest a few and prepare properly for the wigan game IMO

I agree was the correct decision. But is it our black and white tinted glasses or what! Really surprised that all commentary thought it should of been a try, and every other person i speak to does (non hull supporters) Just dont see it at all, in that position he should of really been keeping hold of that ball, no obvious pulling the ball out, lose carry for me, correct decision

Thought masi might have been in the squad. As all our props had a hard match on sat. Getting exited already for Thurs. Coyh

All very light workouts right up to KO. Hope the batteries can get charged up enough to last the 80. We will be fired up for this and targetting a win.

My hubby commentated on Radio Yorkshire on Saturday and said live that it was a loose carry. Then again, he's as anti Wigan as me so that's probably not the best example!

I'm as passionate as any FC fan, but pride myself on being able to look at incidents objectively. I was shocked at the BBC pundits (and many other people since) saying that it should have been a try. No matter what team and what opponents, that was NEVER a strip of the ball!

How I saw it too. Clubb loses possession in the act of rolling over and to suggest that Carlos was even aware of the ball being there is absurd.

Exactly. Carlos held the ball up like any player would in that position. It was Clubb twisting and the ball being clamped by Carlos to avoid it being put down from the initial attempt, that pulled the ball free.

My view was clubb starts to lose control just as Carlos tries to wrap the ball up


Correct decision

Carlos had his arm round the ball to prevent it from being grounded. Clubb tried to spin, Carlos kept his hand on the ball as you would expect, and Clubb lost hold of it. It wasn't a strip. If Clubb had just remained on his back the ball wouldn't have come out and it would have just been back to the 10 for a play the ball. No brainer and I can't believe that every so called pundit in the studio thought it was a try.

Totally agree with this (& the posts above).

There wasn't a "reefing" motion from Carlos to dispossess Clubb, it was an effort from Carlos to control the ball/ball carrying arm in the tackle, and the ball became dislodged when Clubb tried to roll over to ground it.

There's no law that I'm aware of that says a defender cannot have their arm/hand on the ball, or have their arm/hand between the attackers body & the ball. To be honest, the whole debate over it discredits what was a very good, try saving, possibly cup-winning tackle from Carlos.