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| In todays game you dont have to be a tackle machine to play 9.
Naughton has the speed and build for this position.Dont know how well he can pass the ball but im sure the club could work on that.
Just food for thought as our play the ball from dummy half at Saints was so slow.
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| Possible one of the worst ideas on here and that takes some doing.
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| Motu Tony could do it
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| Houghton's made of steel anyway
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| Quote ="bonaire"In todays game you dont have to be a tackle machine to play 9.
Naughton has the speed and build for this position.Dont know how well he can pass the ball but im sure the club could work on that.
Just food for thought as our play the ball from dummy half at Saints was so slow.'"
One from left field Bonaire, but considering his style I can see where you get the idea from. Radders reads this so you may have sowed the seed ?
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| Hey we won at Wembley anything is possible now we can dare to dream haha.
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| Quote ="Dave K."Possible one of the worst ideas on here and that takes some doing.'"
Like to tell us why?
When you consider many rate him as a winger yet he had to ask Radford to give him a chance on the wing so he could get some game time so the coaches dont always see whats in front of them.
Fonua came as a wing yet cemented himself at right centre
Tuimavave came as a centre and now is the first choice 6
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| Quote ="bonaire"
Tuimavave came as a centre and now is the first choice 6
see the point'"
Tuimavave's primary position throughout his career has always been at No6. Tried as a centre by Newcastle in the NRL but played for them chiefly in the reserves at No6. Hull were the first club to play him consistently in a centre position.
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| Quote ="bonaire"Like to tell us why?
When you consider many rate him as a winger yet he had to ask Radford to give him a chance on the wing so he could get some game time so the coaches dont always see whats in front of them.
Fonua came as a wing yet cemented himself at right centre
Tuimavave came as a centre and now is the first choice 6
see the point'"
Defence and passing for a start, the fact he has never played there in his life should be another reason, you can't just swap players positions because they have one attribute, Watts has good hands do we play him at 6?
Bit of a difference from moving from a back position to another like Fonua and Carlos (who have moved played those positions in the past) to moving from the wing to such a key position.
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| He's quick and he's under 6ft tall - let's stick him at hooker then
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| I dont think people realise what a difficult position hooker is to play. They have to do more work than anyone else on the pitch. To be a good hooker you need to be not just a decent passer, but a great passer. It's a game of inches, and a pass that has to be reached or stooped for can be the difference between winning the collision and getting a good ptb. Then you need to be a good defender. Not necessarily to Houghton standards, but you need to be one of the better defenders I'm the team. And those are the easy bits, because where hookers earn their money is in decision making. Along with the half backs they run the team, and in many ways they are even more influential.
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| All due respect but that is a ridiculous idea. A couple of things I will say on Naughton though is that some of the users on this Forum need to get off his back when he comes in after a lengthy period out of the team and doesn't have the best of games. I seem to remember this kind of thing happening with Shaul a couple of years back and we all know how that turned out. Any fan with any sense who went to the Salford game can see that this lad has talent, but in my opinion he just needs a run of two or three games in the team wherever Radford decides to play him before we start casting doubt on him. Even Wilf in his Dentist Diary has changed his mind on Naughton more times than Lady Gaga changes her wigs. The other point I'd like to make his I see a lot of comments on who is the best player at 6 and yet the cut out pass of Naughton's at Salford and the turn and inside pass he delivered in the home game against Huddersfield after catching the ball from behind were as good as any passes I've seen from any stand-off all season. So while playing at 9 is a crazy idea, 6 is not. Sometimes the things in life that your looking for are already under your nose.
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| Quote ="bonaire"In todays game you dont have to be a tackle machine to play 9.
Naughton has the speed and build for this position.Dont know how well he can pass the ball but im sure the club could work on that.
Just food for thought as our play the ball from dummy half at Saints was so slow.'"
Houghtons 1000+ tackles this year suggests that you do...or it certainly helps. Suggesting a winger transfers to hooker because he is quick and is the correct build is quite ridiculous.
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| Motu Tony played in both positions, maybe it could work, I wouldn't put Houghton to wing though!
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| I've been watching Hull for 16 years and in that time we have had some very good hookers, I think Houghton over the last few months as surpassed Swain for me personally and hope this carries on for many seasons yet.
But when his time does draw to an end we definitely need a specialised hooker to replace him and Naughton is certainly not that and never will be imo. Although I expect Naughton to be a very good try scorer on our wing for many years.
At the minute Houghton as become irreplaceable however and we need to hope he stays injury free.
As we saw at St Helens our team have no back up and the fact just about every player stepped in and took his job from the play the ball showed that, some more successfully than others too I must add!
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| Quote ="spegs"Houghtons 1000+ tackles this year suggests that you do...or it certainly helps. Suggesting a winger transfers to hooker because he is quick and is the correct build is quite ridiculous.'"
Yes but Houghton does what no other hooker does and plays the full 80
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| 1 game away from another major final, why would anyone want to suggest this lol
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| Quote ="number 6"1 game away from another major final, why would anyone want to suggest this lol'"
read the subject title,Its not a suggestion its a topic of conversation
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| Quote ="bonaire"read the subject title,Its not a suggestion its a topic of conversation'"
i did and naughton is a fullback/winger, apart from collecting the ball at dummy half coming off our line i dont see anything to suggest he could play at 9
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| Quote ="bonaire"Like to tell us why?
When you consider many rate him as a winger yet he had to ask Radford to give him a chance on the wing so he could get some game time so the coaches dont always see whats in front of them.
Fonua came as a wing yet cemented himself at right centre
Tuimavave came as a centre and now is the first choice 6
see the point'"
As been pointed out Tuimavave was a 6 from schoolboy on.
Did you know Fonua played centre and 6 for his country as well.
Doncaster gave Naughton a run at scrum -half but soon dropped the idea suggesting lack of ball skills
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| Does anyone think taylor could play scrum half? He has 2 arms, 2 legs and a head which are essential for playing scrum half. Seems to have many of the attributes
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| s been pointed out Tuimavave was a 6 from schoolboy on.
Did you know Fonua played centre and 6 for his country as well.
Doncaster gave Naughton a run at scrum -half but soon dropped the idea suggesting lack of ball skills
Sorry, I know a couple of the coaching staff currently at Doncaster and one former member of the coaching staff and that simply isn't true.
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| Quote ="Freddie Miller."Tuimavave's primary position throughout his career has always been at No6. Tried as a centre by Newcastle in the NRL but played for them chiefly in the reserves at No6. Hull were the first club to play him consistently in a centre position.'"
Throughout his career? You mean the dozen or so games he played in the NRL, how many were at 6 in fact? He might think he's a six but he bloody well isn't.
He's not even remotely half as good as Richard Horne, in fact I'd say at the start of the season pryce was performing better than Carlos has in any game he's started at 6.
I'm open to suggestions regarding players and their positions, Naughton will never be a 9, certainly not at this club. His tackling technique isn't good enough for starters and then there's the matter of him easily getting run over.
Out and out scoot merchant at the expense of defensive frailty, no thanks.
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