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| Have Yeaman and Paleaaesina signed new deals? There was speculation in the press a few weeks ago but I can't remember if it was confirmed.
The general consensus on this forum is that Yeaman shouldn't be given one but what are peoples thoughts on Feka?
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| I keep Feka providing its the right deal for the club and only one year, great on and off the pitch, he is under used on the pitch IMO.
Yeaman I would release, but think he will get a new deal, can cope with this as long as he is used as a backup.
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| Feka has one. Not been announced yet.
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| I'm pretty sure Feka would stay with the club even if he wasn't offered another playing contract, made a home for himself with all the community work which he clearly loves doing.
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| If Yeaman gets another contract extension it's a disgrace. Frankly given the relationship between the coach and the player IF any contract is forthcoming it needs to be scrutinised to the nth degree. I wouldn't want him even on reduced terms, he simply doesn't bring anything to the table over what we have in spades and clearly as shown in the younger players too.
he is completely redundant and if we want to improve we need to be letting him go and definitely not gifting him any place in the coaching set up
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| Quote ="knockersbumpMKII"If Yeaman gets another contract extension it's a disgrace. Frankly given the relationship between the coach and the player IF any contract is forthcoming it needs to be scrutinised to the nth degree. I wouldn't want him even on reduced terms, he simply doesn't bring anything to the table over what we have in spades and clearly as shown in the younger players too.
he is redundant'"
What relationship ?
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| Quote ="Legends and Icons"What relationship ?'"
You don't know about their long standing close friendship?
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| Quote ="knockersbumpMKII"You don't know about their long standing close friendship?'"
Are you suggesting Adam Pearson would let Radford keep his mates at the club without a good reason?
Yeaman has been a great servant and whilst he is unlikely to ever hit the type of form he did in his younger years his experience and ability to fill in when required would make him a good squad player on the right money.
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| Quote ="Monkey Lover"Are you suggesting Adam Pearson would let Radford keep his mates at the club without a good reason?
Yeaman has been a great servant and whilst he is unlikely to ever hit the type of form he did in his younger years his experience and ability to fill in when required would make him a good squad player on the right money.'"
To a degree that's already happened this year has it not?
yet another contract handed out to an underperforming bit player that has a strong relationship with the coach should be heavily scrutinised, it smacks of doing a mate a favour. After all it was with Gentle and Mcrea that were accused on here at least of having handed out overly expensive deals to players with close ties to them (on the back of zero evidence mind) despite the micro managing of the owner.
Given the current climate of scraping to save money and the underperformance of Yeaman over the last 2 seasons a contract given to a player whose position we have ample (And better) cover for whom is close friends with the coach should be looked at in detail do you not agree?
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| Quote ="knockersbumpMKII"To a degree that's already happened this year has it not?
yet another contract handed out to an underperforming bit player that has a strong relationship with the coach should be heavily scrutinised, it smacks of doing a mate a favour. After all it was with Gentle and Mcrea that were accused on here at least of having handed out overly expensive deals to players with close ties to them (on the back of zero evidence mind) despite the micro managing of the owner.
Given the current climate of scraping to save money and the underperformance of Yeaman over the last 2 seasons a contract given to a player whose position we have ample (And better) cover for whom is close friends with the coach should be looked at in detail do you not agree?'"
The first thing to say is, what close relationship? What have you seen to suggest this, or are you basing it on both players having been at Hull for a while? I've played rugby with some lads for years and we aren't close mates.
You're saying nothing new once again, we know you don't like him, and I imagine most fans (including me) agree with you that he has underperformed and isn't a starting centre anymore. Radford & Motu have realised this also, they've signed two backs, & it's been hinted that Yeaman could be a back row option. That's for me is enough to go on to suggest they don't see him at starting left centre in 2016.
Also, he hasn't been given an extension yet. It's getting pretty late in the day, most clubs have their squads almost complete. If he was a priority, he'd have been given a deal months ago. That tells me that the club are looking at other options to use the cap space that would give him a new offer.
Should the club not find a use for this cap space, if they've explored other possibilities, but nothing better is currently available, I'd have no problem with Yeaman being retained as a squad player. Due to the factors I've stated above, he blatantly isn't being thought about as a starter anymore and it'll certainly be a reduced deal.
Also, for all you or I know, he's a good influence around the club too. Looking at next years squad, we have a very young set of backs, maybe having that older head around (who's been a model professional for 15 years) would be beneficial? I'm not suggesting he'd be taking Logan to one side and teaching him how to put his winger away, but rather relaying his experience (in finals, playing for GB etc) and being that role model for the younger lads on how to be professional.
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| Quote ="knockersbumpMKII"To a degree that's already happened this year has it not?
yet another contract handed out to an underperforming bit player that has a strong relationship with the coach should be heavily scrutinised, it smacks of doing a mate a favour. After all it was with Gentle and Mcrea that were accused on here at least of having handed out overly expensive deals to players with close ties to them (on the back of zero evidence mind) despite the micro managing of the owner.
Given the current climate of scraping to save money and the underperformance of Yeaman over the last 2 seasons a contract given to a player whose position we have ample (And better) cover for whom is close friends with the coach should be looked at in detail do you not agree?'"
Kirk is an outstanding role model who to my knowledge has never been seen out drinking to excess and clearly looks after himself well, has served the club for many years having come through the youth system and is still capable of playing at Super League level as a back up player at the very least.
To my knowledge (I know both very well) Radders and Kirk are very rarely together outside of training and are not the best friends you seem to be implying.
If the money is right he will be a great bloke to have around as back up and for the young players to gain experience from.
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| Quote ="Monkey Lover"Kirk is an outstanding role model who to my knowledge has never been seen out drinking to excess and clearly looks after himself well, has served the club for many years having come through the youth system and is still capable of playing at Super League level as a back up player at the very least.
To my knowledge (I know both very well) Radders and Kirk are very rarely together outside of training and are not the best friends you seem to be implying.
If the money is right he will be a great bloke to have around as back up and for the young players to gain experience from.'"
Spot on about Kirk, he's a family man who keeps himself to himself. It's a complete myth that he and Radford are bosom buddies, anyone peddling it is talking out of their backside.
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| He'll be around next year
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| Quote ="The Dentist Wilf"He'll be around next year'"
I think thats what it is a 1yr deal.
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| Quote ="Monkey Lover"Kirk is an outstanding role model who to my knowledge has never been seen out drinking to excess and clearly looks after himself well, has served the club for many years having come through the youth system and is still capable of playing at Super League level as a back up player at the very least.
To my knowledge (I know both very well) Radders and Kirk are very rarely together outside of training and are not the best friends you seem to be implying.
If the money is right he will be a great bloke to have around as back up and for the young players to gain experience from.'"
Gain Exerience?
he's been garbage for two seasons
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| But but but Knockersbump seems to know different !!!
I hope Yeamo gets an extension , great servant to our club and even now is not half as bad as some make out
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| Quote ="HullFC_1865"Gain Exerience?
he's been garbage for two seasons'"
Hi Martin, how's the ban going?
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| Quote ="Legends and Icons"But but but Knockersbump seems to know different !!!
I hope Yeamo gets an extension , great servant to our club and even now is not half as bad as some make out'"
Bumpy does seems to get these ideas in his head (Radders & Kirk being best mates, Radders being a bully, as examples), and for some reason just can't let them go. I can't wait for the thread he'll start once an extension is announced.
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| Yeaman has been the consummate pro for FC.
Can't understand the level of negativity against him.
It's the same as when Horney used to get stick - easy targets
At least Yeaman has always out his body of the line for his team and given 100%. Can't say that about everyone who's pulled on the shirt .
If he's still around the club next year - good news as far as I'm concerned.
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| Quote ="knockersbumpMKII"To a degree that's already happened this year has it not?
yet another contract handed out to an underperforming bit player that has a strong relationship with the coach should be heavily scrutinised, it smacks of doing a mate a favour. After all it was with Gentle and Mcrea that were accused on here at least of having handed out overly expensive deals to players with close ties to them (on the back of zero evidence mind) despite the micro managing of the owner.
Given the current climate of scraping to save money and the underperformance of Yeaman over the last 2 seasons a contract given to a player whose position we have ample (And better) cover for whom is close friends with the coach should be looked at in detail do you not agree?'"
You could equally talking about washbrook here too
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| Quote ="Doom&Gloom Merchant"Bumpy does seems to get these ideas in his head (Radders & Kirk being best mates, Radders being a bully, as examples), and for some reason just can't let them go. I can't wait for the thread he'll start once an extension is announced.'"
Yeaman getting an extension makes zero sense, he's past it and we have better cover that's for all to see.
So, if you then have a situation that entails said redundant player getting yet another extension on the back of at least two seasons worth of averageness can you not even put together that the relationship the coach and player have is influencing the decision to give him that extension?
As I said it makes absolutely no sense whatsoever to keep Yeaman, none unless we are yet again settling for average and don't want to utilise the young kids coming through which Yeaman will only stime if he is given said contract extension.
I don't care if he's a 'nice guy' or a great clubman, he's well past it and surplus to requirements, this season fortified what everyone has been saying aside from those sticking their head in the sand.
You really don't get it and are just wanting to shout me down because I raised the question but you have no logical arguement to back your stance up.
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| Quote ="knockersbumpMKII"Yeaman getting an extension makes zero sense, he's past it and we have better cover that's for all to see.
So, if you then have a situation that entails said redundant player getting yet another extension on the back of at least two seasons worth of averageness can you not even put together that the relationship the coach and player have is influencing the decision to give him that extension?
As I said it makes absolutely no sense whatsoever to keep Yeaman, none unless we are yet again settling for average and don't want to utilise the young kids coming through which Yeaman will only stime if he is given said contract extension.
I don't care if he's a 'nice guy' or a great clubman, he's well past it and surplus to requirements, this season fortified what everyone has been saying aside from those sticking their head in the sand.
You really don't get it and are just wanting to shout me down because I raised the question but you have no logical arguement to back your stance up.'"
I think Yeamo has banged your missus.
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| Quote ="knockersbumpMKII"Yeaman getting an extension makes zero sense, he's past it and we have better cover that's for all to see.
So, if you then have a situation that entails said redundant player getting yet another extension on the back of at least two seasons worth of averageness can you not even put together that the relationship the coach and player have is influencing the decision to give him that extension?
As I said it makes absolutely no sense whatsoever to keep Yeaman, none unless we are yet again settling for average and don't want to utilise the young kids coming through which Yeaman will only stime if he is given said contract extension.
I don't care if he's a 'nice guy' or a great clubman, he's well past it and surplus to requirements, this season fortified what everyone has been saying aside from those sticking their head in the sand.
You really don't get it and are just wanting to shout me down because I raised the question but you have no logical arguement to back your stance up.'"
Are you insane?
I stated reasons on my previous post as to why he may be kept on for another year, which was (again) to provide backup to the backs - did you read that bit? Myself and a couple of others said that he's likely a positive influence around the place too, specifically to a really young set of backs.
Is Yeaman being a backup player in 2016 such a problem? Why are you so angered by it?
Unlike you, I don't think we have sufficient cover in the backs. I do agree with you, and so does EVERYBODY, that his days as a first choice centre are finished.
Again, you're doing that weird thing you do and putting two and two together and getting 5. Is that all you have to go on to conclude that Radders & Yeaman are best mates? It's no wonder people treat your posts with zero respect. You're the most close-minded poster on these boards, and thats saying something.
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| Quote ="Doom&Gloom Merchant"Are you insane?
I stated reasons on my previous post as to why he may be kept on for another year, which was (again) to provide backup to the backs - did you read that bit? Myself and a couple of others said that he's likely a positive influence around the place too, specifically to a really young set of backs.
Is Yeaman being a backup player in 2016 such a problem? Why are you so angered by it?
Unlike you, I don't think we have sufficient cover in the backs. I do agree with you, and so does EVERYBODY, that his days as a first choice centre are finished.
Again, you're doing that weird thing you do and putting two and two together and getting 5. Is that all you have to go on to conclude that Radders & Yeaman are best mates? It's no wonder people treat your posts with zero respect. You're the most close-minded poster on these boards, and thats saying something.'"
You have more patience than me, I gave up after one reply!!
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| OK - First off, there is zero actual evidence of any close friendship between Radford and Yeaman. There's been a rumour around for a while but I think it rose mostly out of an attempt to explain the continued selection of a player who is patently no longer good enough.
That said, I have yet to see a convincing reason for retaining Yeaman next season. Even as a backup he makes little sense - we'd have to have an extraordinary injury crisis before he'd be getting on my team sheet either in the backs or forwards. If he's a good influence to have around the club - and I don't think there's any doubt that he's been the consummate professional - then offer him an off-field role.
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