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AS Iv'e said on another thread, disappointing but not surprising with Radford still in charge.

Personally think we have made a mistake with this one and it will be one we come to regret, but Hall really has to improve his defence and decision making to become a top SL centre.

Criminal to think we have Micheals, Yeaman and Sa on our books when we could have Crooks.

Disappointing for me but according to plenty on here we'll score a hatfull of tries down his side of the field every time he plays against us so every cloud and all that

I would have thought Crooks wouldve improved his defence & physicallity... lets see if he has.

Says it all, we sell Crooks & retain Yeaman..

We've sold our 'Dream Team' partnership for transfer fees, Pearson said, he wouldnt sell , but its likely he will do.

According to reports he hasn't stood out for the Eels feeder team and that is below SL level, so not sure how much improving his has done.

Reckon if any coach can get the best out of him, it will be Powell, although I wouldn't rule out a move to Warrington with Agar and Lineham there.

He'll have Pritchard, Ellis and Mini running over him next season.

Are they gonna swap sides during the game?

All quality second rowers have it in them Jakester.


Pritchard plays off the left edge so it could be fun.

Why blame Radford ? was not Radfords fault he could not tackle, had poor positioning. The fans who got on his back like they did Hall shook his confidence and he never recovered and he still has not improved playing under different coaches in OZ .Gentle playing him at Wembley did him no favours and the flack he got the fans after the final loss got to him. Tell me why Radford was to blame

Oh, so it's the fans' fault? That's not like you.

Surely its the coaches job , to help develop and improve players? Crooks got dropped for poor performances while others kept their place (A bit like this season)

I don't remember hardly any fans getting on his back, it fact it was the opposite in most cases and most wanted him to play more.

It was Radfords decision to send him out on loan and not retain him, instead keeping Yeaman and signing Micheals.

It isn't totally his fault, but he must take some responsibility.

Will Cas have the money for the move?

Justin Carney in exchange perhaps?

I can't see Carney happening, we wont get much for Crooks, maybe 30K, I reckon they could afford that.

No doubt Gentle rated him very highly.
Gave him his opportunity and he did well.
Radford comes in and see things differently. It's the way it works.
PG was obviously instrumental in him securing a two year deal at the Eels and he hasn't made the grade.
It's all about judgement innit?

What an absolute joke and a shambles.

This is a perfect example of why we will never be a top of the table contender.

Can you imagine Leeds, Wigan or Saints "discovering" Lineham and Crooks, and what they would have turned them into? The game would have the best 2 international backs for years.

What do we do, hound them out of the club

Wherever Crooks goes i hope we turn that club in to the next Bradford, we have his registration and we should take action against him and the club, just like Leeds and Harris.

Dont sit on here racking up your posts comforting yourself with the line "we'll score loads against him" we wont, as you are all pinning your hopes on nobodys, as someone stated, we are stuck with Yeman Sa Naughton, big wow.

and pinning your hopes and filling your socks over 32 year olds or 28 year old RU players while seeing this as a nothing really is aiming so very low.

The club has driven 2 talents away from it, for whatever reason, lack of success, clown coaches, lack of money whatever, its sad.

people should calm down a bit, amazes me how some go into meltdown, yes when lineham and crooks where doing well it looked like we had our centre and winger sorted, but things change crooks and lineham have both wanted out for reasons which only they know, it happens,crooks hasn't exactly ripped it up in aussie and lineham wanted out, maybe just maybe in the long run we might have made the right choice who knows,

Nothing to contribute again.

Another thread derail against AUP

frepneyboy, was posting his opinion on this matter.

If you dont agree, fine - but,is there any need to post content
which personally insults & berates fellow posters?

Constructive criticsm is fine, but personal criticism is not acceptable -IMO.

I can see it now playing Castleford nxt season Crooks in the right centre spot for them and Radford telling the player's well let yeaman (yes yeaman still in a FC shirt nxt season) run at Crooks cos Crooks can't tackle and every time yeaman does Ben will not stop him lol

Then on BBC Radio Humberside after the game

Well Lee Castleford Tigers have just beat you, what went wrong.

Lee - Well we though we'd target Crooks cos we know what he was like while at Hull

Humberside - but nothing got thou him this afternoon

Lee - yer last year in Australia must have improved Bens game so it's back to the drawing board for me

I take your point, but I find it very difficult to be constructive to a poster who constantly writes absolute nonsense.

dont chomp then, take a chill pill.

Sometimes i find it impossible to read some of the guff here. But its peoples opinions.

Before the internet we'd be stood at rugby or in a pub, all having the same discussions, and guess what, not everyone would have the same opinion on everything.

Lets not get personal eh

Absolute nonsense... in your opinion.

Some might agree, some may not...

Might help to have a constructed discussion, instead of castigating... -IMO

As a cas fan I'm on the fence with ben crooks.
Yes he as potential, he's still very young and with a coach like daryl powell working with him I'm sure the lad will improve, as did snyed under powell.

Just wondering about the registration fc hold.
Lets say no one will pay a fee for him, does that mean fc have to pay his wages for the remaining year of his contract, even if the lad never plays......sure it wont come to that.
So the club buying or paying a transfer fee for crooks could hold the cards in negotiations.
If fc want rid then they may have to accept a lower transfer fee or pay his wages.

Just a thought.

Depends on the opinion, doesn't it.

If an opinion has a foundation of ignorance and is absent of any facts, especially when it's come from someone who has previous form for displaying their close-minded attitude, then it's pretty difficult to be constructive about, or enter into any proper discussion.