For me Westerman has been disappointing.
Green and Bowden still struggle to put two good games together
Yeaman back on the list after Salford game

Houghton - cant do a lot apart from tackle
Lineham - nothing special
Yeaman - same as Houghton

Think Westerman being quiet but had neck injury . Yeaman , Green also being not up to it

Yeaman has done nothing for years, Lineham has done little since his awful luck with injuries, I agree with the above that Houghton does little but tackle, his game hasn't improved at all over the last few years. I also don't get the fuss about Sa he's been injured most weeks!

Awful distribution from Houghton, Yeaman is finished, Green hasn't developed at all & Bowden has impact in his defence but not enough go forward.

Agree with all ofvthe above, BUT id say without hesitation westerman has his sights firmly on an exit from fc.... I beleive he'll replace sinfield at leeds in the near future, just my thoughts before eveyone gets on my case about it... as for yeaman, the guys a dinosaur, centres need to be fast, strong and have a brain nowadays, and without his defence, hes bang average IMO.. theres also the issue with green, bowden etc, there miles behind what saints and wigan bring in from the reserves,... too slow and havent improved, houghtaon is a tough one for me, I do agree that he's a tackling machine, and maybe thats it, I feel we need a hooker of equal skill to compete, and we havent got one, I feel
He can olay too many minutes at times, but unfortunatly he has too

Didn't westerman sign a new contract last year? Hardly the actions of a player who wants away. I thought stevie ward was the new sinfield?

Thats news to me, if he has, then obviously im wrong, but I thought he had 2 years left, I may be mistaken

Another pertinent question might be who's [icapable[/i of upping their game. I think probably only Westerman and Lineham.

Signed a contract extension October 2013. With us until the end of 2016.

Thats a great way of looking at it, and probably describes the problems in which our squad hasn

So thats 2 years left then??? I can just see him leaving, he's got no chance of winning anything at fc, and leeds would be a viable option for me, plus theyd pay a fee no doubt

Good to see the same old crew moaning about anything and everything.

Makes you wonder why they "support" the team.

Its not moaning as you put it, its a discussion based on what were seeing, averagness at its opitimy at the minute, and people are sick of it

but we train the house down and always putting it right. the HDM says so

Dont forget its the hardest pre season weve ever had....

In the main the pack all performed well on saturday, Green maybe the exception. The 3/4 line really worries me, its far to slow. Yeaman has gone, said it on here regularly, no threat with ball at all and too slow, he's so easy to play against. Sa is going to be injury prone and looks for the 'hollywood' pass all the time. We havent got a pure strike centre. Talanoa isnt quick for a winger and Tom has lost a yard. Lancaster and logan may well be utilised soon. I reckon only Rankin could have gone the length on Saturday - apart from jordan thompson

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I too can see him leaving and who can blame him? we all moaned and booed Carvell (first time round) & Briscoe for leaving, but they've got CC winners medals to show for it.

the ideal scenario with Houghton would be to sign another hooker who is more creative, and then use Houghton to come off the bench and inject some pace and in tight games shore up the defence. I don't know how much Heremaia was asking for, but you've got to question why we let him leave to then sign the likes of Howarth & Naughton who aren't even getting a game.

If you run the replay of the Salford first try you can see exactly how slow Yeaman is.
A fast centre could easily have caught Lee before he passed the ball.Yeaman just sauntered back.
Talanoa though is a good finisher and does the hard yards when necessary.Give him a good centre and he would be high in the try scoring list

The fastest centre in the world wouldn't have stopped the first try.

The second try was more debatable, but Yeaman was covering the outside pass, the fullback had the man with the ball coming straight towards him, and a blatant forward pass sorted out the 2 players covering the inside pass.

When someone better (whatever that may mean) than Yeaman is available, then his time will be up.

Surely the obvious one is our coach radford,hadn't got a clue last year and hasnt improved at all,but at least we've trained well and had our toughest ever pre season.
Sorry Mrs B.

here we go ,one defeat and the radders out brigade start, sorry but 3 games in and two really good displays and one which was not that bad just outplayed by chase and some dodgy decisions and its all radfords fault ,I really wonder if these are for real,just give your heads a bang

To be fair, it's only one really.

However there is plenty of over reacting going on. Just as we wasn't going to win the comp after the Hudds game, we're also not relegation material because of a narrow defeat at Salford.

Ahh, I see the lynch mob are out after just three games identifying their scapegoats. Brilliant. Where were you two weeks ago guys?

So, who needs to up their game after Salford? The team does. It's a team sport and our attitude as a team was poor, so all of them. I'm not really sure what identifying individuals and hammering them online will achieve? Players will make errors, it's how the team responds/recovers from those errors that really matters, and our response as a team, and adapting to what was infront of them should've been better.

Unfortunately, it seems this board/our club is infested with posters/supporters who are almost wanting a poor performance. Don't get me wrong, I'm sure they want to see us win and do well like we all do deep down, but the rush & clamour to get themselves online to say 'I told you so' & spread the doom and gloom is nauseating & makes me feel sorry for them if they apply that negativity to every aspect of their lives.