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| [url=http://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/Hull-FC-face-court-battle-Shannon-McDonnell/story-21179661-detail/story.htmlMcDonnell seems to have left it long enough![/url
Can you sue someone for breaking a promise, if so, there's a whole bunch of local and national politicians who should be sweating.
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| I hope not, I promised to do the garden this week.
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| Yeh, although I think hes been treat poorly, don't think we have a case to answer, surely if he aint signed the contract! And the fact we had a new man in charge
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| Quote ="Tinkerman23"Yeh, although I think hes been treat poorly, don't think we have a case to answer, surely if he aint signed the contract! And the fact we had a new man in charge'"
That and he got a serious hamstring injury that was very nasty by all accounts, you certainly can`t blame the club for wanting to cover that in the contract, if the contract hasn`t been signed surely the club is well within their rights to do that.
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| Quote ="Greavsie"That and he got a serious hamstring injury that was very nasty by all accounts, you certainly can`t blame the club for wanting to cover that in the contract, if the contract hasn`t been signed surley the club is well withion their rights to do that.'"
Crooke was allowed to walk because he hadn't signed, so precedent is set.
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| Offered a new contract under Gentle, but he doesn't sign it, change in coach who (rightly) doesn't want to sign him on an extended deal.
Unless he signed the contract like we found out with Cooke he wont have a leg to stand on.
Don't think Hull have done anything wrong, he should be looking to get fit and get a contract with another club.
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| i would ask judge judy.
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| Sounds like he's taken advice from someone who believes he has a case. Anyone know a no win, no fee lawyer who might be advising him?
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"Sounds like he's taken advice from someone who believes he has a case. Anyone know a no win, no fee lawyer who might be advising him?'"
Doubt it will be him, Hudge likes to hold Grudges so wont help him.
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| Quote ="Dave K."Doubt it will be him, Hudge likes to hold Grudges so wont help him.'"
Won't be him anyway as he isn't an employment lawyer
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| Seems, from that report, that the contract was offered, neither party has actually signed, McD agreed it, thinks FC agreed it and then a new coach decided not to follow it up.
As a renowned barrack room lawyer, I don't think he has a leg to stand on. Offering a contract and signing a contract are two different things. If only one party agrees, that can't be binding, surely?
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| Wasn't his extended contract a parting gift to the club from his Uncle Pete?
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| A contract doesn't need to be signed. This will come down to whether contract terms were actually agreed. Not being privy to the negotiations it's hard to see if he has a case but he seems to think so.
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| Quote ="C for Cuckoo"A contract doesn't need to be signed. This will come down to whether contract terms were actually agreed. Not being privy to the negotiations it's hard to see if he has a case but he seems to think so.'"
Tell that to Plumber and Cooke.
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| Quote ="C for Cuckoo"A contract doesn't need to be signed. This will come down to whether contract terms were actually agreed. Not being privy to the negotiations it's hard to see if he has a case but he seems to think so.'"
How do you prove they were agreed?
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| Quote ="Robbo4"How do you prove they were agreed?'"
That might be what the club are relying on. Cooke would have been deemed to have agreed his, although unsigned, because he turned up for work, played, and was paid the salary set out. Whether the club can be deemed to have agreed a new deal with McD, even though he had (especially if it involved a pay rise that never happened, for example) is one for m'learned friends.
(Apologies for utilising the word "deemed". I am NOT Stevo)
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| Quote ="Chris28"That might be what the club are relying on. Cooke would have been deemed to have agreed his, although unsigned, because he turned up for work, played, and was paid the salary set out. Whether the club can be deemed to have agreed a new deal with McD, even though he had (especially if it involved a pay rise that never happened, for example) is one for m'learned friends.
(Apologies for utilising the word "deemed". I am NOT Stevo)'"
I was just posting pretty much the same thing!
Verbal agreements are a matter of honour when it comes to substantiating them. Im pretty sure that a couple of solicitors when discussing this agreement in court will have honour at the forefront of their minds.... right?
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| Quote ="Robbo4"How do you prove they were agreed?'"
Maybe a parting gift from Gentle/McRae would be a signed statement stating the player was offered X amount. (Just adding fuel )
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| another day, another problem
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| Quote ="BrianGriffin"another day, another problem'"
This is so much funnier when I read it in Brian Griffins voice (if that makes sense?)
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| Quote ="BrianGriffin"another day, another problem'"
If you put all our problems down on paper, this would be right at the bottom.
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| Quote ="Dave K."If you put all our problems down on paper, this would be right at the bottom.'"
a problem is a problem
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| Quote ="Dave K."If you put all our problems down on paper, this would be right at the bottom.'"
Wouldn't be in my first book that's for sure.
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| I'm pretty annoyed by this, I liked McDonnell and thought he actually improved our attack greatly. If he had being from Hull he would have got his new deal for sure.
I'm all for the club trying to get local players on board but it seems to be borderline racist now that if you don't know what a pattie is your out the door next. This attitude has already cost us McDonnell and Azza, whose gonna be next.
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| Quote ="pmarrow"I'm pretty annoyed by this, I liked McDonnell and thought he actually improved our attack greatly. If he had being from Hull he would have got his new deal for sure.
I'm all for the club trying to get local players on board but it seems to be borderline racist now that[u if you don't know what a pattie is your out the door next[/u. This attitude has already cost us McDonnell and Azza, whose gonna be next.'"
Is it this that's behind Azza leaving?
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