So, at the beginning of the season, a few people ( i can only remember Jake as well as me) said that it would be a struggle and we were probably going to be poor. With complete regret it appears we were right. Sad days that we are used to mediocrity and accept it. I'll keep going but it is becoming a chore. Today was a big disgrace. All too many of those days in last few years.

I think it's now fair to say many are not accepting mediocrity. Crowds dwindling and it will become rapid soon. Forget IAKOW. I support the club but this team certainly since 2006 is now taking the mickey.

I questioned the appointment of Radford. I also worry that if my sources are correct the list of candidates was totally underwhelming for the head coaches role. Or did AP simply chose the candidates based on a post code?

AP has allegedly ploughed in millions yet fails to grasp that a clubs culture comes from the head man. This failure will haunt us for years to come unless he sorts it out soon.

I predicted 10th, clearly I was way too generous.

Poor coach appointment, poor in the pre-season games, it's were I expected us to be but it still doesn't make it easier to take.

And we have had all the easier home games Hull KR apart. Good job Bradford have a points reduction.

For a few seasons now I have been going to games more with hope than expectation. I am not from Hull, but for a rugby mad city, both clubs are underwhelming. I am not saying we have a devine right to win everything, but I think we have a right to watch decent rugby. After yesterdays game I am seriously thinking of not going. I have been going for years ,but to watch us sling a decent lead away and be more interested in scrapping does make you think.
Before anybody comes up with "any kind of weather", been there ,done that, got the T shirt.

I originally thought 7th or 8th. I still think we could make 8th place, though I would regard such a finish as a failure.

It's going to be exciting next year when we have to play all those extra games against Featherstone, Leigh, Dewsbury and Doncaster !

Or not.

I originally thought anywhere between 6th and 9th to be honest. It was difficult to predict as we had too many players who had the potential to be great or poor, plus an unproven coach.

And fair few people questioned Radford's appointment, myself included. I think most of us hoped to be proven wrong though. I like his attitude and honesty but for me his appointment has come too early in his coaching career.

Don't think we have quite sunk that far yet, though to be fair any of those aforementioned clubs could take us to the cleaners on their day.

If Bradford appeal is successful, it could get interesting.

Very interesting. Throws the relegation battle wide open and we will be drawn into it along with Rovers. They have the advantage of a string of easier games than we have as well.

Many may all 8 Leeds, but will hold my hand up and say I envy their fans watching decent rugby.

Agreed

If the points reduction is over turned we are in a relegation battle, and with us having Bradford, Wakey and Salford to play away we would be in serious trouble.

Relegation battle? Come on guys, I'm pi55ed off with them too, but we will be safely in the 8 by the end of the season. The question is whether you are happy with a 7th or 8th finish and a playoff defeat.

The answers NO.That will mean we've gone backwards so Radford should get the same treatment that was meted out to Gentle

Whilst I'm not convinced that we're heading for a relegation battle I'm also not convinced we'll make the playoffs.

I was another to fear for us pre-season whilst still prepared to give Radders and co every chance. I don't think our recruitment was strong enough and I don't believe it's matched what our owner was trying to feed us. I was very close to AP at final whistle and he was a dejected chappie slumped in his seat at final whistle. That after he'd had a verbal fooking off some numpty to which he chose not to reply!

I said we wont finish in the eight and im sticking with it. I think Rovers will be eight and us ninth or tenth.

For me the club is a mess and I lay the blame at the door of Pearson. He's a football man who's found out that rugby league works a whole lot different to football and after all his false promises has been found out. He's not signed the players that he said he would, hes done the cheap option employing yet another unproven assistant despite all previous evidence showing that it very rarely works and just like Radford he hasn't got a clue on how to change it all round. Best thing that could happen at FC is for Pearson to sell up to a rugby man but the chance of that is basically zero as theres no money around so unfortunately were stuck with this clueless dire rugby league for the foreseable future

AP can go out & break the salary cap,what is what salford have done, but in there case its not the answer either.

Can`t buy success, ask Leeds United.

You can buy success if you spend it in the right places.

There is potentially a really good future at the club with the new wave of youngsters we have coming through. However we need to address the rotten core of the club ASAP because otherwise these kids will go the same way. Get rid of the players who have been here for years on end and haven't performed, and bring in an all new, professional, experienced coaching staff who will set the high standards we require. We need the youngsters to be brought up in a professional, winning environment, like the Wigan and Leeds kids do. Otherwise they will just fall into the same ways as the rest of them.

Or Man City.

I think we'll finish in the top 8 but was hoping for 6th which I now think will be very difficult. I don't think we'll be struggling with relegation at all. Our pack is decent and has some depth to cover injuries.

What the team needs, so badly, is two players - a top scrum half and a good, experienced mid 20s centre with some strike potential. I have no idea where the half will come from - easier said than done - but it is that position which has continually cost the club success for 8 years. Far more than any coaching appointment (see Radford/Gentle/Agar/Sharp). We need brains on the field and the knowledge to run a game tactically coupled with the skills to implement and deliver what is necessary. As has been mentioned look at Warrington this year now they've lost that player they had - a shadow of the side that they used to be.

With some good young players around the squad that's all I think we need to push the top 4. The current coach has some attributes I like but is naïve in other ways. He should stay until the end of the season minimum and then re-assess. If Pearson wants this to succeed he has to find an established playmaker/leader and get him into the club to deliver immediate results and nurture Harry Tyson Wilson into our next big home grown star. If he needs salary cap advice Koucash is always on twitter.

Bang on. As usual.

We should have more points on the board, have a tough run of games to come and just lost to the 2nd worst team in the comp at home. i wish I shared your optimism on our finishing place. 10th I reckon