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Good luck to them at Donny. Surprising that they have been released mid contract. Both were top performers for 19's. (Sure Wilson captained them as well). Also played out of position a lot because the 19's had a weaker pack compared to other clubs. It's a shame they haven't had much of a chance against senior players. Stuff like this highlights the importance of an A team. Too old to play for 19's yet will feature every now and again if sent to Donny on loan. At least they may be playing regular at own clubs other than others that have just made the numbers up in training and had no game time like many last season (Hadley, Kenty and players before)
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Good luck to them at Donny. Surprising that they have been released mid contract. Both were top performers for 19's. (Sure Wilson captained them as well). Also played out of position a lot because the 19's had a weaker pack compared to other clubs. It's a shame they haven't had much of a chance against senior players. Stuff like this highlights the importance of an A team. Too old to play for 19's yet will feature every now and again if sent to Donny on loan. At least they may be playing regular at own clubs other than others that have just made the numbers up in training and had no game time like many last season (Hadley, Kenty and players before)
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| its all down to the ridiculous set up below 1st team level, if you are too old for the u19s then you can't stay at a superleague club and expect regular football. the dual club thing is daft because you can't really commit to either club
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| agree 100% with the last post.
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| I heard that bringing back a Reserves/U23 competition was being discussed as part of the 2015 reorganisation but I've not heard anything mentioned recently.
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| Quote ="C for Cuckoo"I heard that bringing back a Reserves/U23 competition was being discussed as part of the 2015 reorganisation but I've not heard anything mentioned recently.'"
That would be great, I actually think under 21 with 2 over aged players allowed would be fine.
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| Quote ="Dave K."That would be great, I actually think under 21 with 2 over aged players allowed would be fine.'"
Anything like that would be a much more sensible approach. With the current situation not only do we have to rely on dual reg to get players games we also have nowhere for our senior players to play when they are coming back from an injury or on the fringes.
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| The A team system worked fine. We'll get back there eventually.
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| Quote ="hullbg"Anything like that would be a much more sensible approach. With the current situation not only do we have to rely on dual reg to get players games we also have nowhere for our senior players to play when they are coming back from an injury or on the fringes.'"
I thought that is why our squad is on dual reg so returning injured players can play at donny? Surely the championship & U23s level wouldn't be much different & the clubs would have to have 4 games per week 16s,19s,23s & first team...could clubs afford the squads?
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| As for the reserves returning, hers what the policy review says:
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5.4.21 A programme of Reserves Development games in two phases will be optional for all clubs. The reserves games will be structured into two divisions across Tier 1 and Tier 2. The Divisions will be structured in two phases with a programme of games between the period February to April and a second games period between August and October.
5.4.22 Clubs will be able to organise games outside these periods in agreement with competing clubs.
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| A crafty way round the dual reg quota limits perhaps?
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| Quote ="Hutchie"A crafty way round the dual reg quota limits perhaps?'"
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| I think the main thing to look at here is the relationship you have with Doncaster. They can still get the 5 dual registration players but also have two young lads who will be good enough to play almost every week at that level. I would be there is a clause in the contract that Hull FC have first refusal on their services come the end of their current Doncaster contract.
Cooke and Radford have clearly looked at how to benefit from this partnership and I can only see it doing good over the coming couple of years. Especially for the young lads.
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| Quote ="hullbg"Anything like that would be a much more sensible approach. With the current situation not only do we have to rely on dual reg to get players games [uwe also have nowhere for our senior players to play when they are coming back from an injury or on the fringes[/u.'"
Recall that Morley and Briers both had games at their duel reg club Swinton last season when they were returning from injury, not sure if Cooke / Radders have built in this scenario for our set up Donny
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| Hope not from a Doncaster view point we only took fringe players from Wakefield & that's how it should be .
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| The system worked to some extent with Doncaster and Wakefield because we took fringe players and gave them regular rugby and sustained periods in the team. It doesn't work, in my opinion, in the very short term particularly when the players are unfit
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| Quote ="Hutchie"A crafty way round the dual reg quota limits perhaps?'"
Doncaster will have to pay their wages now though - although Hull might be able to cover it indirectly through a 'joint initiative' or by 'sharing resources'.
The fact they've [iboth[/i gone to Doncaster, rather than any other Championship club does make you wonder, certainly. If they'd already spent time there, as I assume they did at York last year, it'd be a bit less suspicious. Then again, it is one of the easier places to travel to from Hull.
Quote ="Jemmo"The system worked to some extent with Doncaster and Wakefield because we took fringe players and gave them regular rugby and sustained periods in the team. It doesn't work, in my opinion, in the very short term particularly when the players are unfit'"
Along with my point above, this where a 'partnership' or 'development pathway benefitting both clubs' starts to look a lot like a farm team. I'm not throwing stones - one of our assistant coaches is also head coach of Gateshead, and they had a Rovers badge on their shirt last year.
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| Have they officially left Hull yet as we (Donny) haven't announced them signing .
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| Quote ="weighman"Have they officially left Hull yet as we (Donny) haven't announced them signing .'"
I think they have Gary, there were 2 lads that looked distinctly like them at the team photo last Saturday.
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| Quote ="weighman"Have they officially left Hull yet as we (Donny) haven't announced them signing .'"
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| Jay Pitts has followed them I've heard!!
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| I was told yesterday that Hull had renewed their interest in that Fijian prop from the World Cup and that an agreement had been reached with him but there would have to be a player(s) released because of Cap pressures. Would tie in if Pitts has gone.
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| Quote ="daveh"Jay Pitts has followed them I've heard!!'"
Surprised if Pitts has gone, did ok for us last year, would be even more surprised if he's gone to Donny, good enough to remain in SL IMO
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| Pitts is not leaving.
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