Looks like this is how we'll go into 2014 (probably got some dates/ages wrong, been on the Prosecco tonight). Obviously some big risk players in there - Feka, Feleti, Biggs etc, but should be some surprises. Hooker's an interesting one, with Azza on a 1 year, time for Cunningham to impress in training, like the look of him in the little I've seen. Certainly a younger squad than some of recent years - excluding the Tyson Wilsons and Reece Dean, still only 24.

Biggest gaps for me are a ball-busting prop and a big experienced centre.

[uFull Back[/u
Shannon McDonnell 2014 (26)
Jamie Shaul 2015 (21)

[uWing[/u
Tom Lineham 2017 (22)
Tom Biggs 2016 (29)
Feluti Talanoa 2015 (25)
Jason Crookes 2015 (23)

[uCentre[/u
Ben Crooks 2015 (20)
Kirk Yeaman 2015 (30)
Joe Arundel 2016 (22)

[uHalves[/u
Richard Horne 2014 (31)
Jacob Miller 2015 (21)
New Signing
Harry Tyson-Wilson ? (16)
Reece Dean ? (16)

[uHooker[/u
Danny Houghton 2018 (25)
Aaron Heremaia 2014 (31)
James Cunningham 2015 (19)

[uProp[/u
Mickey Paea 2015 (27)
Liam Watts 2015 (23)
Iafeta Paleaaesina 2015 (31)
Chris Green 2016 (23)
Jay Pitts 2014 (23)
Josh Bowden 2014 (21)
Ryan Wilson 2014 (19)
Bobby Tyson-Wilson 2015 (1icon_cool.gif

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Gareth Ellis 2015 (32)
Joe Westerman 2016 (23)
Richard Whiting 2016 (2icon_cool.gif
Chris Tuson 2015 (25)
Jordan Thompson 2016 (22)
Liam Kent 2014 (22)
Dean Hadley 2015 (21)

Still think we're short of a nasty b@@tard of a prop.

I really couldn't agree more. We don't have any forwards that will worry teams coming to the KC.

I don't rate the dobbins squad very highly at all but they certainly do have that mongrel that will make away teams worry about rushing to Craven Palace.

I couldn't care less how "nasty" the pack is as long as they make yards when we have the ball and stop the other team making yards when we don't. Wigan don't have any forwards with any real mongrel (Dudson perhaps) but are comfortably the best pack in Superleague.

Besides, the game is too soft these days for teams to require an enforcer type.

Wigan's pack is just very very well drilled and effective. They don't have an enforcer type forward but I bet they'd love to have another Kelvin Skerret in there.

Our pack also lacks a bite but is the exact opposite of Wigan's well drilled set of forwards.

How do you know what they will lack? Radfords field of expertise is the forwards and he was a nasty piece of work as a junior and could certainly look after himself.

We've got Paea and Feka. How "nasty" do you want then to be?

Hull FC squad numbers: 1 Shannon McDonnell, 2 Jason Crookes, 3 Ben Crooks, 4 Kirk Yeaman, 5 Tom Lineham, 6 Richard Horne, 7 Jacob Miller, 8 Mickey Paea, 9 Danny Houghton, 10 Chris Green, 11 Gareth Ellis, 12 Chris Tuson, 13 Joe Westerman, 14 Richard Whiting , 15 Joe Arundel, 16 Jordan Thompson, 17 Liam Watts, 19 Jay Pitts, 20 Jamie Shaul, 21 Dean Hadley, 22 Josh Bowden, 23 Liam Kent, 24 James Cunningham, 25 Tom Biggs, 26 Iaefeta Paleaaesina, 27 Ryan Wilson, 28 Alex Starling, 29 Bobby Tyson-Wilson, 30 Harry Tyson-Wilson, 31 Reece Dean, 33 Aaron Heremaia. Read more: www.hulldailymail.co.uk/Hull-FC- ... z2k8HMMng3

Hull FC squad numbers: 1 Shannon McDonnell, 2 Jason Crookes, 3 Ben Crooks, 4 Kirk Yeaman, 5 Tom Lineham, 6 Richard Horne, 7 Jacob Miller, 8 Mickey Paea, 9 Danny Houghton, 10 Chris Green, 11 Gareth Ellis, 12 Chris Tuson, 13 Joe Westerman, 14 Richard Whiting , 15 Joe Arundel, 16 Jordan Thompson, 17 Liam Watts, 19 Jay Pitts, 20 Jamie Shaul, 21 Dean Hadley, 22 Josh Bowden, 23 Liam Kent, 24 James Cunningham, 25 Tom Biggs, 26 Iaefeta Paleaaesina, 27 Ryan Wilson, 28 Alex Starling, 29 Bobby Tyson-Wilson, 30 Harry Tyson-Wilson, 31 Reece Dean, 33 Aaron Heremaia. Read more: www.hulldailymail.co.uk/Hull-FC- ... z2k8HMMng3

Some interesting changes...Arundle being knocked down,some promoted and we have got a good sprinkling of youth in the squad.Cant wait for the bitch fest now on here with these numbers.

Quote ="djlard"Hull FC squad numbers: 1 Shannon McDonnell, 2 Jason Crookes, 3 Ben Crooks, 4 Kirk Yeaman, 5 Tom Lineham, 6 Richard Horne, 7 Jacob Miller, 8 Mickey Paea, 9 Danny Houghton, 10 Chris Green, 11 Gareth Ellis, 12 Chris Tuson, 13 Joe Westerman, 14 Richard Whiting , 15 Joe Arundel, 16 Jordan Thompson, 17 Liam Watts, 19 Jay Pitts, 20 Jamie Shaul, 21 Dean Hadley, 22 Josh Bowden, 23 Liam Kent, 24 James Cunningham, 25 Tom Biggs, 26 Iaefeta Paleaaesina, 27 Ryan Wilson, 28 Alex Starling, 29 Bobby Tyson-Wilson, 30 Harry Tyson-Wilson, 31 Reece Dean, 33 Aaron Heremaia. Read more: www.hulldailymail.co.uk/Hull-FC- ... z2k8HMMng3'" Some good young players in that squad. Looking forward to seeing the progress. Shows how highly rated dean and Tyson wilson are to be given a squad number at only 16.

Quote ="djlard"Hull FC squad numbers: 1 Shannon McDonnell, 2 Jason Crookes, 3 Ben Crooks, 4 Kirk Yeaman, 5 Tom Lineham, 6 Richard Horne, 7 Jacob Miller, 8 Mickey Paea, 9 Danny Houghton, 10 Chris Green, 11 Gareth Ellis, 12 Chris Tuson, 13 Joe Westerman, 14 Richard Whiting , 15 Joe Arundel, 16 Jordan Thompson, 17 Liam Watts, 19 Jay Pitts, 20 Jamie Shaul, 21 Dean Hadley, 22 Josh Bowden, 23 Liam Kent, 24 James Cunningham, 25 Tom Biggs, 26 Iaefeta Paleaaesina, 27 Ryan Wilson, 28 Alex Starling, 29 Bobby Tyson-Wilson, 30 Harry Tyson-Wilson, 31 Reece Dean, 33 Aaron Heremaia. Read more: www.hulldailymail.co.uk/Hull-FC- ... z2k8HMMng3'" Some good young players in that squad. Looking forward to seeing the progress. Shows how highly rated dean and Tyson wilson are to be given a squad number at only 16.

Suprised Jansin Turgett hasn't got a squad number.

I quite like the look of the squad, going in the right direction, will help having another half.

Biggest gap we ave is in the backrow, all of our backrowers are all simalar, no Willie Manu type player.

Other teams didn't have a Manu type player but didn't do them any harm by what raiders has said,he wants WEsterman to be a ball playing 13 so should see our pack becoming a lot better

My worry is with Lineham and Crooks apparently being split up. Think that would be a mistake TBH. Otherwise no real surprises and only one disappointment.

Wouldn't surprise me to see Crookes,Biggs or the Tongan with yea man,if he starts,

Yeah - that left edge could be in a bit of a state of flux early on. Although I don't see the point of naming Lineham there instead of Crookes if that isn't going to be the way we start.

Quote ="djlard"Hull FC squad numbers: 1 Shannon McDonnell, 2 Jason Crookes, 3 Ben Crooks, 4 Kirk Yeaman, 5 Tom Lineham, 6 Richard Horne, 7 Jacob Miller, 8 Mickey Paea, 9 Danny Houghton, 10 Chris Green, 11 Gareth Ellis, 12 Chris Tuson, 13 Joe Westerman, 14 Richard Whiting , 15 Joe Arundel, 16 Jordan Thompson, 17 Liam Watts, 19 Jay Pitts, 20 Jamie Shaul, 21 Dean Hadley, 22 Josh Bowden, 23 Liam Kent, 24 James Cunningham, 25 Tom Biggs, 26 Iaefeta Paleaaesina, 27 Ryan Wilson, 28 Alex Starling, 29 Bobby Tyson-Wilson, 30 Harry Tyson-Wilson, 31 Reece Dean, 33 Aaron Heremaia. Read more: www.hulldailymail.co.uk/Hull-FC- ... z2k8HMMng3'" How has Whiting still not got a starting 13 number?!

Quote ="djlard"Hull FC squad numbers: 1 Shannon McDonnell, 2 Jason Crookes, 3 Ben Crooks, 4 Kirk Yeaman, 5 Tom Lineham, 6 Richard Horne, 7 Jacob Miller, 8 Mickey Paea, 9 Danny Houghton, 10 Chris Green, 11 Gareth Ellis, 12 Chris Tuson, 13 Joe Westerman, 14 Richard Whiting , 15 Joe Arundel, 16 Jordan Thompson, 17 Liam Watts, 19 Jay Pitts, 20 Jamie Shaul, 21 Dean Hadley, 22 Josh Bowden, 23 Liam Kent, 24 James Cunningham, 25 Tom Biggs, 26 Iaefeta Paleaaesina, 27 Ryan Wilson, 28 Alex Starling, 29 Bobby Tyson-Wilson, 30 Harry Tyson-Wilson, 31 Reece Dean, 33 Aaron Heremaia. Read more: www.hulldailymail.co.uk/Hull-FC- ... z2k8HMMng3'" How has Whiting still not got a starting 13 number?!

Their just squad numbers they mean F all

Not full time.

Squad numbers can be a guide to some thinking, but then I think there's always a certain amount of tact involved, too. For instance, fullback: I still think there's a good chance Shaul might get the nod, but to take the 1 shirt from McDonnell for him would create more of a talking point and probably more pressure. And again in the centres, how much fuss would be made if Yeaman lost his number after so many years and his testimonial season? Yet you can't really not give Crooks one of the 2 shirts, so it had to be Arundel's. I still wouldn't be surprised to see Arundel and Crooks as our centres (in fact I'd prefer it based on last year).

And how many people think Paleaasina will be further down the pecking order than Bowden?

Mickey Paea isn't a big nasty prop at all, he'll run hard and make yards all day but nasty he isnt. do you actually watch any rugby?

So how nasty do you want them to be?

Sock fest/bitch fest

all the same

This is exactly the prop we need, can someone describe what a big nasty prop is. It isn't the 80s, players don't get intimated just because a props hard, do fans want a Tim street.

Discipline is such a key part of the game and a player who gives always too many penalties and gets sent off is a liability.

The best team in the league don't have this type of player, in fact which top clubs do?

Think the number 14 might mean a lot to him this year

Chance to see them......