Here we go again...

When wire re-sign a stack of players way past their best, wigan pay fees for matty smith and blake green and clubs are fighting over amor, you know there is a dearth of quality around. We just have to pick up who we can and be beter next year than this. Anyone expecting us to become the best team in the league in one closed season is deluding themselves.

Agreed. I would also rather sign noone than give 2 or 3 year deals to our "second or third choices"

Noone from wire? He's rubbish!

I don't think I've read anyone say anything about being the best team in the league!!! I've said top 4 is a realistic target.

We have a squad of very good players that I'm happy with, the only thing that would really top this is to have a top half back I.e. Chase and a Bone Crunching hard hitting prop.

if im honest i can see us gaining a place maybe 5th or at best 4th next year we have lost 2 real quality forwards in manu and moa ,manu been the most destructive backrow in SL and just carnt see anyone replacing him even ellis who is a wonderful player but not the offensive player manu is . I think the most important step we can take is getting the backroom physio and conditioning right and keeping players on the field, that way we keep our consistancy week in week out

if we can get chase and add a quality full back with loads of pace and good link, and another real quality forward to bolster the pack then we may have a very good team capable of chalenging the top 3

Reading tweets that we have made an illegal approach to Paul Johnson at Vikings

tit for tat for them approaching Tickle

Johnson at Wakey not Vikings

You're right , the tweet was from JoeViking on SL site , in a bit of a rush to post I was

Yep I post earlier its all over the back page of the local rag

Headline is

Johnson deal angers Cats it starts Wakefield Trinity Wildcats have hit out at SL rivals Hull FC over the "illegal" approach for prop Paul Johnson. Its a four column article.

On Jonno hes been great for Wakefield last season he was super in a team of in experience, this season hes been hit and miss if I am honest and has been behind Amor, Wilkes and Raleigh in the prop stakes. hes a top lad and hope he goes well for you but he needs to step up again now to be anywhere near a first team regular.

Very Surprised if we have but no smoke without fire I guess

The same as most clubs will have been doing for the last few months on various signing targets. The rediculous rule that is the September anti-tampering deadline, at least recognised as such now by the RFL and changed to May from next year.

Anyone going into the final year of their contract in this sport should be in a position to look at securing what is best for their future.

The onus will be on Wakefield to prove that we have made an illegal approach, I bet they can’t. Paper talk imo, simply sour grapes that they are losing a player to us.

I wouldnt mind but they didnt hardly ever play him did they? So if he wasnt even rated under agar you would of thought they would be glad he is off there books

Cough up a decent amount of cash and we couldn't care less to be honest, It's your good self that should be more worried, that your previously well respected club will be aquiring a reputation as a bunch of Shysters desperate to buy success at any price.The new Leeds ?

bless, another jealous troll

trot on

He played in 20 games for us last season.
So not really correct there.

Sorry I am not making a song and dance out of this as I like you am sure it will come out in the wash and has been discussed the deadline has been moved to earlier in the season from next year.

The article alludes to Hull speaking to him around 4 weeks before the deadline, it states "paul Johnson signed for Hull and they didnt tell us so thats illegal". Nowhere in the article does it state Wakey are reporting the approach but now its in the medi I am sure it will be looked at.

Looking back at this message board and some of the posters who if you believe are in the know stated as a rumour Johnson had signed, and without trawling back through I bet some of these posts were before the September deadline, (no smoke without fire indeed).

Onwards and upwards.

Really? If your players ooc his agent will talk to other clubs, he's got a living to make after all.

[url=http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/rugby-league/19660725Won't be any of these lot![/url

You are Yoda and I claim my £5

It happens all the time, agents talking to clubs, and is too hard too prove. Thankfully the deadline has been moved.

Did he

fair enough I stand corrected