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| What with Manu turning us down "absolutely gutted about that, as he was my favorite player" Wade jetting off back too aus.
Uncertainity regarding Moa, and O'Meley, and now why is turner holiding out!
I'm sorry but if you have "best mates in Hull, and are enjoying "the time" in Hull, signing an extension is a no brainer providing the contract details/wages are good, so why is he making us wait?
Seems ever since the Ellis signing everything contract player/contract wise has gone down hill..
We have an out and out full back gone, let's be honest we struggle with options without him.. Lost our best player and most creative/attacking player down our left edge, we could be loosing turner our hottest prospect, and on top of that, O'meley will probably retire next season, moa is still a question mark, apart from Lynch, that would leave a pack of; Lynch, Pitts.....do the maths.
If you want my honest opinion, i'm more worried about next season than this... and half way through the season we shouldn't be doing that, we should be enjoying this year...
What's your thoughts, is something going on behind the scenes that we don't know about?
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| Half empty Lewis, eh?
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| Quote ="DobboHullFC"What with Manu turning us down "absolutely gutted about that, as he was my favorite player" Wade jetting off back too aus.
Uncertainity regarding Moa, and O'Meley, and now why is turner holiding out!
I'm sorry but if you have "best mates in Hull, and are enjoying "the time" in Hull, signing an extension is a no brainer providing the contract details/wages are good, so why is he making us wait?
Seems ever since the Ellis signing everything contract player/contract wise has gone down hill..
We have an out and out full back gone, let's be honest we struggle with options without him.. Lost our best player and most creative/attacking player down our left edge, we could be loosing turner our hottest prospect, and on top of that, O'meley will probably retire next season, moa is still a question mark, apart from Lynch, that would leave a pack of; Lynch, Pitts.....do the maths.
If you want my honest opinion, i'm more worried about next season than this... and half way through the season we shouldn't be doing that, we should be enjoying this year...
What's your thoughts, is something going on behind the scenes that we don't know about?'"
Manu, Turner, Ogre and Moa were all out of contract anyway.
Ellis is a massive signing for the club.
Lynch has just extended his deal, with Tickle to follow. I'd imagine more extensions in the next coming weeks, too.
The boat isn't sinking, it hasn't even set sail yet
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| Does it not worry you guys?
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| ha ha love these threads this time last year people wanted rid of sharp and turner now he's our hottest prospect.
If you want my opinion im not worried about next season i'm massively excited for the future, players leaving leave gentle with a blank canvass for the future.
dont understand the doom and gloom on here at the minute
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| Quote ="DobboHullFC"Does it not worry you guys?'"
No it really doesn't however I can understand dobbins like yourself being worried about our new regime and the changes they are keen to make.
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| Quote ="DobboHullFC"Does it not worry you guys?'"
Absolutley not. Not even thought about it.
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| In the pack, what about O'Carroll? Bowden? Kent? Or do they not count? We've (so far) lost two players. Gentle has already stated Horne will play fullback, so what's the the massive over-reaction?
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| Quote ="Bet Lynch"No it really doesn't however I can understand dobbins like yourself being worried about our new regime and the changes they are keen to make.'"
When are we gunna stop this "your a dobbin" off, hull f.c through n through you complete nut job, accept it!
I'm concerned because as it stands, we've lost a full back mid-way through the season, If is heart is not for Hull, then great, bugger off we don't want players like that, but I'm ed off how a professional rugby league player can agree and sign a 3 year deal, and leave 6 months through it and leave us with a headache in the FB position... it's disgusting.
I'm worried about the loss of Manu, and if we may loose turner, we invested in turner and he's turned out to be a great player, rumors on Briscoe too.
The problem we have is the longer we go without winning anything, we will always be loosing our better players, because a player wants to win something, and can only go so long without success and when they know they are instrumental they can get a contract at any club, look at how turner is playing this season! he's on fire and easily one of our best players, certainly most improved.
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| My thoughts are:- wait and see what Bomber and Peter come up with for next season and beyond. You will see exactly what PG is trying to achieve in the next 2 seasons, no doubt in my mind whatsover!!
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| As it stands.....
Manu out, Possibly turner, possibly briscoe.... a full back short
In: Ellis
Would rather keep the top 3 than loose them and bring in Ellis...
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| Yeah thats it, our recruitment is over.
Have you been checked out at the docs?
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| Im not worried but excited as to what the future holds. The current team isnt good enough to challenge and needs breaking up so im not bothered about anyone leaving.
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| Sorry but stupid post in my opinion, to me it's a fantastic time for Hull Fc, loads of cap to spend on getting the players PG wants and he has already shown what a good coach he is by our start and how some players have come on leaps and bounds.
Boat sinks, definately not. Spaceship about to take off more like.
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| Quote ="Sheldon"Yeah thats it, our recruitment is over.
Have you been checked out at the docs?'"
Didn't say our recruitment is over you muppet, this is what narks me off, the ability for people to read and make assumptions.
I'm stating the obvious facts.
For all we know the board could make 4 massive signing's in the off season, but that's not a fact i'm trying to discuss now, the fact is we are loosing some of our quality players, and i'm surprised it's not worrying some of you.
When Manu didn't sign, and then Turner is holding, i'm thinking oh god, just when we start to get some consistency and start to look a better team structurally it all goes tit's up.. we've just lost a full back, we was already short in the havles for quality, so this now means horne will have to slip through to full back....
Nicklas ain't ready no where near, ellis has a quality kicking game, that's about it.... so you could say half way though the season 2 key positions (one in the halves and at full back) has been blown open once again.
When will we ever have a consistent half back pairing, and a proper bloody full back! I think our attacking play will suffer due to this.
Manu? Will he continue to play the way he has been playing, is his heart elsewhere now? lot's of questions to be asked. We will find out on Saturday by the reaction of the players, after past results and also the fact Leeds always give us a mauling, the Leeds game with some of our "key" players back really will give an indication as to how far we've come or "how far off" we are.
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| Just to clarify the Wade situation. Gentle said on Humberside last night that he offered to see out the season but Gentle told him to be selfish in this situation and to go now. It was also telling that when Gollum asked him if it was a blow to lose one of his big signings Gentle replied with "he wasn't one of my signings". I actually think Gentle sees this as a good opportunity to bring in his own players without having to pay off a large contract. I personally think wholesale changes to the playing squad is exactly what this club needs. Bringing players in on the right terms is easier than trying to reduce the wages of players being over-paid. Let's all just be patient and allow PG and the club the time to undo all the problems caused by the previous regime.
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| Quote ="DobboHullFC"Didn't say our recruitment is over you muppet, this is what narks me off, the ability for people to read and make assumptions.
I'm stating the obvious facts.
For all we know the board could make 4 massive signing's in the off season, but that's not a fact i'm trying to discuss now, the fact is we are loosing some of our quality players, and i'm surprised it's not worrying some of you.'"
Why should we be worried when we could make 4 massive signings?
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| Quote ="DobboHullFC"As it stands.....
Manu out, Possibly turner, possibly briscoe.... a full back short
In: Ellis
Would rather keep the top 3 than loose them and bring in Ellis...'"
are you for real?
you can't complain about 2013 squad without seeing who we bring in.
Its obvious you'd rather keep 3 rather than gain 1 but wait and see who we bring in before moaning
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| Quote ="tommyfromhull"Why should we be worried when we could make 4 massive signings?'"
That is his worry
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| Quote ="DobboHullFC"Didn't say our recruitment is over you muppet, this is what narks me off, the ability for people to read and make assumptions.
I'm stating the obvious facts.
For all we know the board could make 4 massive signing's in the off season, but that's not a fact i'm trying to discuss now, the fact is we are loosing some of our quality players, and i'm surprised it's not worrying some of you.
When Manu didn't sign, and then Turner is holding, i'm thinking oh god, just when we start to get some consistency and start to look a better team structurally it all goes tit's up.. we've just lost a full back, we was already short in the havles for quality, so this now means horne will have to slip through to full back....
Nicklas ain't ready no where near, ellis has a quality kicking game, that's about it.... so you could say half way though the season 2 key positions (one in the halves and at full back) has been blown open once again.
When will we ever have a consistent half back pairing, and a proper bloody full back! I think our attacking play will suffer due to this.
Manu? Will he continue to play the way he has been playing, is his heart elsewhere now? lot's of questions to be asked. We will find out on Saturday by the reaction of the players, after past results and also the fact Leeds always give us a mauling, the Leeds game with some of our "key" players back really will give an indication as to how far we've come or "how far off" we are.'"
I've never known an poster have mood swings like you do.
You say your posting facts then use the words possibly.
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| Quote ="Robbo4"Just to clarify the Wade situation. Gentle said on Humberside last night that he offered to see out the season but Gentle told him to be selfish in this situation and to go now. It was also telling that when Gollum asked him if it was a blow to lose one of his big signings Gentle replied with "he wasn't one of my signings". I actually think Gentle sees this as a good opportunity to bring in his own players without having to pay off a large contract. I personally think wholesale changes to the playing squad is exactly what this club needs. Bringing players in on the right terms is easier than trying to reduce the wages of players being over-paid. Let's all just be patient and allow PG and the club the time to undo all the problems caused by the previous regime.'"
Spot on for me
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| Wait until the recruitment is all done before judging.
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| I'm surprised by Manu's decision but if you think about it, Moa is obviously going and Luaiki's already gone - he don't fancy being a one man mafia.
Being serious, losing those 2 may be a factor and lets be honest, its his last pay day and saints are obviously offering big dosh under a proven coach like Brown.
We've still got Westerman and Ellis to name but 2 to add to our current back row options, it's hardly a priority.
I like many have wanted to see Horney play FB for years so again, whilst this is a short term blow losing Wade, I'm happy RH will be in a more 'appropriate' position next year.
The half backs, i do agree to an extent. The young lads have a lot to prove yet and personally I have my doubts and Seymour to me just isnt what i want to see in a scrum half. An improvement on recent seasons as he's a decent organiser yes, but he needs to run with the ball more. I'd swap him him in a heart beat for Dobson or Dureau. I'd hope to see a more running h/b for next season and I'm sure we will.
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| Quote ="Robbo4"Just to clarify the Wade situation. Gentle said on Humberside last night that he offered to see out the season but Gentle told him to be selfish in this situation and to go now. It was also telling that when Gollum asked him if it was a blow to lose one of his big signings [iGentle replied with "he wasn't one of my signings[/i". I actually think Gentle sees this as a good opportunity to bring in his own players without having to pay off a large contract. I personally think wholesale changes to the playing squad is exactly what this club needs. Bringing players in on the right terms is easier than trying to reduce the wages of players being over-paid. Let's all just be patient and allow PG and the club the time to undo all the problems caused by the previous regime.'"
I bet Gollum is starting to dread interviewing Mr Gentle.
As far as I can remember Lynch was the first Gentle signing and he, Pearson and McRae have reiterated more than once that the squad Agar presented them with was not complete, and inferred that the signings made prior to Lynch were not what they would have made.
So here we are, undergoing the process of creating Gentle's 'sleeping giant' SL team. That means massive change, some welcome some not. They would have liked to keep Manu, but not at a price that compromises the end result. Ditto Turner IF he goes. Other than those two, who's going/gone that we haven't tried to keep?
I'm happy and excited, but if you're not, dobbo, why don't you start a petition, or is it 'The Bomber IS Back' that writes those?
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