Tomkins first try IMO was a double movement
Obst disallowed try Wigan player fell off the tackle
Richards second try markers not standing square at play the ball- should have been Hull penalty

General performance od Thaler/Ganson awful

First try was fine.

Obst try should have stood imo.

Can't agree with the Tomkin's try, that tackle wasn't completed.

On the flip side, it looked like Horne knocked on before the Turner try. We also had a huge penalty count advantage.. can't blame the ref tonight.

Some dubious calls but our supporters embarass me sometimes - this is not a go at the OP but the constant booing and jeering every time we are penalised.

whitings gaff, tickles pass that led to an interception, phelps miss-judgement too

16 points that cost us! our own worst enemies tonight at times

How was it fine Paul the ball carrying arm hit the ground therefore tackle complete Tomkins then span and put the ball down eqals double movement

It was Turner's fault not Whiting's.

Momentum never stopped, it was the least controversial decision of the night I would say,

If that is to be classed as a complete tackle then the game would become a joke IMO.

Whitings gaff? When was that? What about Turners sloppy pass to no mans land.

tomkins try was fine, ball carrying arm never hit the deck

Obst try the emphasis is on the attacking player to withdraw from the line, thus Lauaki was obstructing.

I kind of agree that the refereeing wasn't brilliant, but is it any coincidence that this keeps happening? We need to smarten up, we always get close to the big teams, but hardly ever get over the line. We have massive brain explosions at the wrong times.

Because his momentum wasnt stopped.

was it turner? if so my mistake, still cost us 6 points regardless

The amount of possession we had early on and the fact we did not convert it to points is criminal. We did the same against Leeds.

IMO the tomkins try was good, Obsts try also!! cant comment on the decisions made tonight, ill watch it on sky+ then i wont embarrass myself!!

It was Turner.

Pretty much sums up the season and season before that and season before that and no doubt if Agar is the Coach again next season it will be same, nothing ever changes or improves under him.

We struggle because we dont have a true halfback pairing. A lot will say well its not Agars fault Long is injured, but anyone who puts faith in a crock playing a full season is deluded. We should have brought in a backup for the inevitable Long injuries.

We did

. Obst

In all fairness he is a hooker, and he wasn't brought in till Wakey had their problems.

The Sam Tomkins try was fine, when a player is sliding the tackle is complete at the point where the players stops sliding so he's entitled to reach out and score.

The Obst try that was disallowed for obstruction was dubious. I know that the player can't use the dummy runner to shield himself but I thought the Wigan player went for the man deliberately to try to get the penalty rather than attempting to tackle the ball carrier.

The right result but I feel a little bit hard done to. We didn't help ourselves and lacked some rub of the green.

Not seen it back on tv yet but the same old thing creeps into my head a lot of times - whilst decisions are often correct you can't help but wonder if they would be 'spotted' if it was the other way around.

Not sour grapes, as i said the right result, and just coming from the game it's easy to have a but if blinkers on (we are fans after all!)

Whoever said about the constant booing being embarrassing is spot on in my opinion too.

For me though we have played for long enough without a true halfback pairing to be able to have by now come up with a system thats works for us but we haven't and are so void of ideas and any creativity it begga's belief.

We did. Obst. As backup halves go he's not the worst, but we've had to rely on him so much that his limitations have really been shown up.

We would also have had Nicklas if not for his injury.

The halves are only part of the problem anyway.