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| That's where we lost tonight. No kicking game, too slow, incapable of organising and incapable of executing set plays.
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| Totally agree.
In some games they have linked up, some like tonight, it just didn't work.
People talk about (including the commentators on sky then) our defence was maginificent, very good etc. Our defence should not have to be good if we would learn to attack, the saying defence is the best form of attack does not relate to us either, we just cannot attack, and tonight we certainly did not.
What es me off the most is that since we lost swain, cookie, sid domic, etc etc we've had very very little in the form of linking up. Can't expect manu, yeamon to do it week in week out.
We need another halfback for next season still, forget what weve signed, they are more hookers than half backs!
We need another half back, because we always have at least one injured half back each season! the board IMHO are fecking blind!
I think next week, if conditions are fair and dry, Leeds will hammer us good and proper.
And I think that will be the end of Richard Agar
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| Horne, obst and washy just don't have the class at hb to pull off the set moves that the rest of the team are capable of. In ellis and seymour we have an organiser and a guy with a decent kicking game, something were seriously missing.
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| Quote ="Dnats Ynnepeerht"Horne, obst and washy just don't have the class at hb to pull off the set moves that the rest of the team are capable of. In ellis and seymour we have an organiser and a guy with a decent kicking game, something were seriously missing.'"
But we've just extended one of these player's contracts for a further 2 years , Obst has another year and Washy well, Enough said.
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| Quote ="Dnats Ynnepeerht"Horne, obst and washy just don't have the class at hb to pull off the set moves that the rest of the team are capable of. In ellis and seymour we have an organiser and a guy with a decent kicking game, something were seriously missing.'"
Ellis? Another cast off that saints didn't want and now another team? Not good enough for me.
We've tried blooding young british (and local halfbacks) and etc. Most have failed, bar Horne,Yeamon,Briscoe. Name a player that's come through the ranks and secured a first team status of late (over the past few years) NONE.
We should just accept and start signing some classy players, if you want my honest opinion im geting fed up of supporting my team, and the c*nts board that we have.
We pay good money to watch utter SH*T, WOW we beat Wakefield, Harelquins and Salford.
Both games Hull KR surpassed us with their results against them teams (with them having Salford to come) that's what was in my mind before tonights game, and I knew full well, once again, we had a MASSIVE chance to beat Leeds, and we failed miserably without having a break all game, and scoring a single point!
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| Giving Richard Horne a new 2 year contract is THE worst decision in our SL history!! He showed tonight how poor he really is!!
Whoever sanctioned that needs to lose their job!!
Agar out, Anderson in before Cas get him!!!
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| That's a bit dramatic
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| Quote ="FC Wembley 08"Giving Richard Horne a new 2 year contract is THE worst decision in our SL history!! '"
Absolute bollox.
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| Quote ="FC Wembley 08"Giving Richard Horne a new 2 year contract is THE worst decision in our SL history!! He showed tonight how poor he really is!!
Whoever sanctioned that needs to lose their job!!
Agar out, Anderson in before Cas get him!!!'"
I think the Mason saga was worse tbh
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| Quote ="B0NES"But we've just extended one of these player's contracts for a further 2 years , Obst has another year and Washy well, Enough said.'"
Yep.
Horne is pretty much useless unless he has an organiser alongside him, always has been. Obst and washy I suppose are 'filling in'. Still not good enough.
Atleast agar has seen what we need and gone out and signed them. 3 months ago I wouldn't have thought him capable even of that.
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| As poor as our halves were/are, the pack got shafted for 80 minutes which didn't help their cause one bit.
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| Quote ="FC Wembley 08"Giving Richard Horne a new 2 year contract is THE worst decision in our SL history!! He showed tonight how poor he really is!!
Whoever sanctioned that needs to lose their job!!
Agar out, Anderson in before Cas get him!!!'"
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| Quote ="FC Wembley 08"Giving Richard Horne a new 2 year contract is THE worst decision in our SL history!! He showed tonight how poor he really is!!
Whoever sanctioned that needs to lose their job!!
Agar out, Anderson in before Cas get him!!!'"
Do you seriously mean that?
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| Quote ="Nobby Nolan"As poor as our halves were/are, the pack got shafted for 80 minutes which didn't help their cause one bit.'"
By a bunch of second row's.. Oh and one in the centre's
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| Quote ="Phil O'Stein"Do you seriously mean that?'"
Saying its the worst decision is going way OTT but IMO it isn't a great one.
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| Think people are being quick to jump on Horne because he had a bad game tonight after signing a new deal. Yes, he was poor, but halfbacks will always struggle behind such a badly beaten pack, particularly one whose strength has always been his footwork over his organising or handling. Obst disappointed me more tonight, even before moving to hooker. At least Horne looked to try and do something, for much of the opening stages Obst seemed content mainly to spectate, or just move the ball on aimlessly to the next man in the line.
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| Quote ="pmarrow"Saying its the worst decision is going way OTT but IMO it isn't a great one.'"
I'm undecided myself, but his comment was bordeline insane. We've given Richard Agar two contracts in the last 4 years to put his comment in perspective.
Horne's not an organiser, he's a running 6. I'll personally judge the decision on his deal when seeing him as a 6 alongside Seymour when he's fighting for his spot with Obst, Nicklas and Ellis.
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| Quote ="Phil O'Stein"I'm undecided myself, but his comment was bordeline insane. We've given Richard Agar two contracts in the last 4 years to put his comment in perspective.
Horne's not an organiser, he's a running 6. I'll personally judge the decision on his deal when seeing him as a 6 alongside Seymour when he's fighting fir his spot.'"
If Agar is still in charge next season..Horney will not be fighting for his spot
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| We've give a player who hasn't been fit for ages , Can't kick , Lost a yard or two in pace , And still has injury doubts over him a 2 year deal . Feck me , This club is in decline.
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| obst has been very ineffective for a while now great when 1st came . horne pleased he signed again but should of been for a year , unless someone leads him around the park is very ordinary . having said that the pack were well beaten . still expect different next week and a win
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| So were are all these world class half backs that we are supposed to sign, who are off quota, will come for no money and be happy to sit in the stands when one the other world class half backs is playing? In case you havnt noticed there arent any half backs out there that tick these boxes. I think weve done good to sign a good aussie half back (seymour) and sign a young and promising english half back (ellis). Its alright saying what we should do, but being able to do it is another thing.
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| Our pack got demolished tonight,we got dominated in nearly every collision, consequently this resulted in a very slow play the ball , which meant the Leeds defense was set at every tackle,you could of had Thurstan behind that pack and he'd of done FUUCK all.
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| Quote ="Carlotti"Our pack got demolished tonight,we got dominated in nearly every collision, consequently this resulted in a very slow play the ball , which meant the Leeds defense was set at every tackle,you could of had Thurstan behind that pack and he'd of done FUUCK all.'"
agree with everything said there, we were very soft and when you considering our pack is better then theres certain players have to start aiming up
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| For those who ask 'do I mean it?'
YES.... Richard Horne is shiiiiiiiite!!! I'll give you that noone had a great game tonight but Horne's awful kicking put us under ridiculous amounts of pressure, not passing the ball when you're 5mtrs out with 3 players to his right and being consistently cack constantly!!
He's played well since we announced Ellis and Seymour cos he knew his career was on the skids, now he's gone back to being standard Richard Horne!!
Next week our season is over with trash like that in our side!!
This is all before our selfish players refuse to come and greet their fans in the players lounge!!
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| Quote ="FC Wembley 08"For those who ask 'do I mean it?'
YES.... Richard Horne is shiiiiiiiite!!! I'll give you that noone had a great game tonight but Horne's awful kicking put us under ridiculous amounts of pressure, not passing the ball when you're 5mtrs out with 3 players to his right and being consistently cack constantly!!
He's played well since we announced Ellis and Seymour cos he knew his career was on the skids, now he's gone back to being standard Richard Horne!!
Next week our season is over with trash like that in our side!!
This is all before our selfish players refuse to come and greet their fans in the players lounge!!'"
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