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| Does anybody think Longy & Sir Fitz are worth another years deal?.
Longy could well be more productive now Gleeson is on board.
Sir Fitz will be very hard to replace, both on & off the field.
Balanced against that is the age of the players & large salaries.
Is one more year just too much for them?.
Any thoughts?
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| Sir Fitz definately(if he wants to stay). I`m not that fussed if Long doesn`t TBH. Longy hasn`t produced the goods consistently enough.Have we got another scrum half lined up for next year? If not, maybe Long will stay another year especially now that Gleeson is here.
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| i certainly think we could see more from long with gleeson on board hopefully anyway as for another contract no old aand injury prone and we need to look elsewhere. fitz well again i have to questions that he would be able to go again for another couple of years but i would like us to look for a younger prop and allow westy,turner and whiting have the 13 shirt. but there no doubt both players have brought some much need experience.
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| Both play like they are 18 again, definately one more year with no worries at all
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| Quote ="ICECREAMMAN"Both play like they are 18 again, definately one more year with no worries at all'"
certainly cracking performances from both today but looking long term the injury problems that long has had for me means we have to be looking for another halfback, as for fitzy well hes a workhorse and can see him playing for another year
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| If Longs only going to turn up for the odd Derby match and the Saints games then no.
Fitz...only if he was played as prop, the 13 shirt is Westermans for me.
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| Quote ="arliebird"certainly cracking performances from both today but looking long term the injury problems that long has had for me means we have to be looking for another halfback, as for fitzy well hes a workhorse and can see him playing for another year'"
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| I say thanks to Fitz and goodbye. I think the salary he undoubtedly commands could be spent with greater effect on a younger marquee signing. That's not to belittle his contributions but he is slowing though still buts in a great shift.
As for Long I say goodbye and good riddance, has never justified the outlay we have made on him and again the money could be better spent elsewhere. Can't believe we'd offer him a deal.
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| I would say it would depend what salary we could get them both for.
However I still feel a new (younger) no7 is the clubs top priority. We need to sign someone who we can build the team around for future years.
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| Long played very well today but it was the exception rather than the rule and he'll be injured again before long.
As for Fitz I'd give him another year if he wanted it. Menzies is still delivering the goods and he's 37 now.
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| I would say thank you for the service to the game Fitz, but no extension. too many times today once the ball got to fitz in Rovers 20 everything seemed to go into slow mo. Fitz doesn't have the skills of someone like Westerman who should be in the receiving positions that Fitz was in today
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| As soon as Gleeson signed for 18 months that signalled to me that Long would be getting another year.
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| Quote ="east hull FC fan"If Longs only going to turn up for the odd Derby match and the Saints games then no.
Fitz...only if he was played as prop, the 13 shirt is Westermans for me.'"
Good points.
If Long can play like he did today for the rest of the season then yes give him another deal, he needs to stay fit though and be consistent.
Fitz again yes provided we play him at prop, Westy is a born 13 and needs to start playing there from next season.
Also depends on who else is available.
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| Quote ="PAUL M"Good points.
If Long can play like he did today for the rest of the season then yes give him another deal, he needs to stay fit though and be consistent.
Fitz again yes provided we play him at prop, Westy is a born 13 and needs to start playing there from next season.
[uAlso depends on who else is available[/u.'"
theres the answer!!! in one
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| Long gets stick from some on here,but I defy anyone to prove his lack of commitment.
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| Quote ="barton baird"Long gets stick from some on here,but I defy anyone to prove his lack of commitment.'"
Well said.
I would consider giving them both deals depending upon what other options may or may not be available. No point in getting rid if the replacements are not up to the same standard.
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| Long no, the club has know for at least a year that we would need a halfback, so hopefully they have someone lined up.
Fitz I would for another year, I would say yes, I can't see us getting a player from the NRL better than him, still as fit as ever. But as others have said not as a LF, prop or 2ndrow.
Use the quota spots of Lauaki and Phelps to sign a couple of backs.
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| Fitz, most definitely and should stay as captain. A true leader and a fantastic grafter - has more than earnt another year at Hull FC imo, if he wants it. Further, I think his fitness allows for it as well.
Long - fitness has to be a major concern, further, he does seem to only be a big game player which works for us well in games like yesterday, not so much when we are playing Crusaders etc. One thing we need at Hull is what Fitz brings imo, consistency.
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| no and no
Long had a good game yesterday, agreed, but he isn't at the level we need moving forwards, Fitzgibbon runs his blood to water in defence, but it all slows down too much in attack when he gets the ball, we paid good money for Westerman and he showed yesterday we need him on the field for as long as possible when fit.
We need to stop relying on ageing players for 1 or 2 seasons and start promoting the youngsters IMHO.
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| Quote ="bringbackbuck"I say thanks to Fitz and goodbye. I think the salary he undoubtedly commands could be spent with greater effect on a younger marquee signing. That's not to belittle his contributions but he is slowing though still buts in a great shift.
As for Long I say goodbye and good riddance, has never justified the outlay we have made on him and again the money could be better spent elsewhere. Can't believe we'd offer him a deal.'"
Exactly how I see it. Even if long was playing out of his skin every time he was on the field, he's way too injury prone to be our 1st choice scrum half
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| Quote ="Staffs FC"Well said.
I would consider giving them both deals depending upon what other options may or may not be available. No point in getting rid if the replacements are not up to the same standard.'"
There's an argument for that in fitz's case but long is too injury prone for us to spend any decent amount of money on
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| Long shouldn't be offered a new deal, this latest injury setback will mean he's played just 21 games in a season and a half. A dislocated elbow and a broken finger are unlucky injuries but we need our scrum half on the pitch not in the stands.
Unsure on Fitzgibbon, what he has brought to the team in terms of leadership and his defence cannot be questioned but we have to look to the future with Westerman.
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| Long injured again, probably the reason why he should not be given a new deal unfortunately.
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| We shouldn't give long another year........ But it's Hull FC so of course we will. Fitz a utter legend but agree with the speed and Westerman comments. Fitz is at the end of his time so he'll need to maximise his earnings. I guess it just depends who else UK & NRL want him, would love him to stay.
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| Quote ="PAUL M"Long injured again, probably the reason why he should not be given a new deal unfortunately.'"
He will be staying at the club in some capacity wether its as a player or not.
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