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| What kind of person chants the name of a racist, cowardly thug?
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| Hasn't been charged with anything yet. Before you ask, if found guilty then I hope the club and the law throw the book at him.
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| Quote ="CHURCHILL"Hasn't been charged with anything yet. Before you ask, if found guilty then I hope the club and the law throw the book at him.'"
Have you seen the screenshots in the Hull Daily Mail today of his Facebook page?
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| Quote ="ComeOnYouUll"Have you seen the screenshots in the Hull Daily Mail today of his Facebook page?'"
No to be honest, I haven't.
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| Quote ="CHURCHILL"No to be honest, I haven't.'"
Pretty disgusting "political" and "religious" views. Mentioned on the VT but I won't put them on here.
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| Quote ="ComeOnYouUll"Pretty disgusting "political" and "religious" views. Mentioned on the VT but I won't put them on here.'"
Well as said, if it is him and they are his views then throw the book at him. But, although I'm not here to defend Ben Cockayne, it does amaze me how the white than white brigade (no racism intended there ) crawl out to show their disgust when lets be honest, most people at some point in their life have said something similar. Ask Henderson Gill how he used to feel with fans in the 3d stand at Boulevard throwing bananas at him, or how Clive Sullivan felt with 'monkey noises' aimed at him at both Rovers and Hull when he played for either opposition. Yes I know it was years ago, but it's all relative, fortunately times have changed as well as attitudes, but racism is still rife throughout the world, let alone facebook.
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| Quote ="CHURCHILL"Well as said, if it is him and they are his views then throw the book at him. But, although I'm not here to defend Ben Cockayne, it does amaze me how the white than white brigade (no racism intended there
) crawl out to show their disgust when lets be honest, most people at some point in their life have said something similar. Ask Henderson Gill how he used to feel with fans in the 3d stand at Boulevard throwing bananas at him, or how Clive Sullivan felt with 'monkey noises' aimed at him at both Rovers and Hull when he played for either opposition. Yes I know it was years ago, but it's all relative, fortunately times have changed as well as atitudes, but racism is still rife throughout the world, let alone facebook.'"
I'm not whiter than white but then again I'm not a racist cowardly thug either and would never chant the name of one.
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| Quote ="Robbo4"I'm not whiter than white but then again I'm not a racist cowardly thug either and would never chant the name of one.'"
It's no different to Gareth Raynor, he's a convicted racist thug, yet he carried on his playing days at Hull after being charged, and I'm sure his tries whilst still in a Hull shirt weren't met with silence from everyone in the stadium.
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| Quote ="CHURCHILL"It's no different to Gareth Raynor, he's a convicted racist thug, yet he carried on his playing days at Hull after being charged, and I'm sure his tries whilst still in a Hull shirt weren't met with silence from everyone in the stadium.'"
Cheering a try for your team is not the same as chanting a players name like he is some sort of hero. Did you ever hear chants of Raynor Raynor? Certainly not by me. I wanted him sacked at the time.
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| Quote ="Robbo4"Cheering a try for your team is not the same as chanting a players name like he is some sort of hero. Did you ever hear chants of Raynor Raynor? Certainly not by me. I wanted him sacked at the time.'"
You're kind of clutching at straws now. Obviously I don't follow your every move and I have no reason to doubt you that you wanted him sacked, rightly so as I have said if Cockayne IS guilty, I hope Rovers do the same. You're clutching at straws in the sense that I would say that chanting a players name is no different to celebrating a try by a certain player. If people felt that strongly about Raynor still playing in a Hull shirt after his charge then they would have shown their disgust in the stadium towards him wouldn't they. In fact, I'd bet the mortgage that Hull fans never once sang at Raynor when he played for Hull, "You're supposed to be in jail".
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| Quote ="CHURCHILL"You're kind of clutching at straws now. Obviously I don't follow your every move and I have no reason to doubt you that you wanted him sacked, rightly so as I have said if Cockayne IS guilty, I hope Rovers do the same. You're clutching at straws in the sense that I would say that chanting a players name is no different to celebrating a try by a certain player. If people felt that strongly about Raynor still playing in a Hull shirt after his charge then they would have shown their disgust in the stadium towards him wouldn't they. In fact, I'd bet the mortgage that Hull fans never once sang at Raynor when he played for Hull, "You're supposed to be in jail".'"
I'm the one clutching at straws? Really?
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| Quote ="Robbo4"icon_lol.gif
I'm the one clutching at straws? Really?'"
Well you are in a sense, as I said, because you started talking about a try for 'the team' when I was talking about an indivdual, that if as a fan you were disgusted with that individuals actions, then surely the said fan wouldn't show any support for him at all.
But please answer my question, did Hull FC fans ever chant at Gareth Raynor, "You're supposed to be in jail" Yes or no?
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| No they did not churchill, but then you know as well as i do fans can be a bit blinkered at times.
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| Just heard hudgell on blunderside. Said he had only really become aware of what had been posted today but intimated that cockayne would be on his way if he's guilty of these postings. Fair play to him if he does, very poor if he doesn't
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| Quote ="hullbg"No they did not churchill, but then you know as well as i do fans can be a bit blinkered at times.'"
Blinkered, or hypocritical?
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| Quote ="CHURCHILL"Blinkered, or hypocritical?'"
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| Quote ="CHURCHILL"Well you are in a sense, as I said, because you started talking about a try for 'the team' when I was talking about an indivdual, that if as a fan you were disgusted with that individuals actions, then surely the said fan wouldn't show any support for him at all.
But please answer my question, did Hull FC fans ever chant at Gareth Raynor, "You're supposed to be in jail" Yes or no?'"
No you said chanting "Charlie Charlie" is exactly the same as generic cheering when Raynor scored a try. So when a player scores a try you are cheering the player? Really? You must have a jar full of straws by now.
When my team scores a try I celebrate the fact my team has scored, sometimes I dont even know which player scored it (particularly if I'm in the Zebrugge end at Craven Park) so yes that is completely different to chanting a players name in support of that player.
No I didn't chant abuse at Raynor but then I'm not suggesting Rovers fans should chant abuse at C0ckhead. I simply asked what sort of person would hero worship a racist cowardly thug.
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| Quote ="hullbg"Either
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Hypocrite.
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| Cockend is a despicable speciman of a human being.
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| The fact is they have always shouted "Charlie charlie" it is not like they had decided to chant it just today. Pretty sure if it was Yeamo who had made the comments and he scored we would have been chanting "Yeamo Yeamo"
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| Quote ="Robbo4"No you said chanting "Charlie Charlie" is exactly the same as generic cheering when Raynor scored a try. So when a player scores a try you are cheering the player? Really? You must have a jar full of straws by now. '"
When Richard Owen scored a try a few weeks back for Cas against Hull, it was commented that people were pleased he had scored on his return after his long term injury. Isn't it a mixture of both for the player and the team. I can only imagine the sense of relief for Chelsea fans when/if Torres ever scores for his club. If you could take a quick straw poll (theres another straw) at that instant when the ball goes into the net who the fans were pleased for, then I would suggest that many if not most would say player before the team.
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| Quote ="fc baldy"Cockend is a despicable speciman of a human being.'"
All that needs to be said in a thread about him tbh.
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| Quote ="hullbg"The fact is they have always shouted "Charlie charlie" it is not like they had decided to chant it just today. Pretty sure if it was Yeamo who had made the comments and he scored we would have been chanting "Yeamo Yeamo"'"
At last, some sense.
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| Quote ="hullbg"The fact is they have always shouted "Charlie charlie" it is not like they had decided to chant it just today. Pretty sure if it was Yeamo who had made the comments and he scored we would have been chanting "Yeamo Yeamo"'"
Pretty sure I wouldn't and anyone who was is also an idiot. Lets not forget this is the same pondlife that put kicks in to the head of a defenceless prone human being. Anyone chanting his name because he happens to play for the team they support needs to give their head a serious bang.
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| Quote ="CHURCHILL"When Richard Owen scored a try a few weeks back for Cas against Hull, it was commented that people were pleased he had scored on his return after his long term injury. Isn't it a mixture of both for the player and the team. I can only imagine the sense of relief for Chelsea fans when/if Torres ever scores for his club. If you could take a quick straw poll (theres another straw) at that instant when the ball goes into the net who the fans were pleased for, then I would suggest that many if not most would say player before the team.'"
Your just posting random nonsense now. Dont reply.
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