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One of my big interests in life is the two World Wars, wargraves and the memorials to those who served this country. I am a local volunteer with the Commonwealth War Graves Commission (CWGC) and have adopted a number of wargraves of Battle of Britain pilots. I give them a clean and tidy to maintain their appearance, befitting of the person who made the ultimate sacrifice for this country. I am not sure if you have ever had a look at the CWGC website but on it is a publication listing rugby players who have served their country in its time of need.
This is a link to it:- www.cwgc.org/admin/files/Rugby%20leaflet.pdf
As you can see, there aren’t any rugby league people on it. I have spoken to the CWGC people and I have been given the go ahead to produce a list of rugby league people who answered their countries call in time of conflict. I have been in contact with Stevo and we agree this is something that doesn’t exist but we have agreed it needs to exist!
I have written to all the clubs for the names of people who served this country in a time of conflict. This is where you guys and gals can help. Please could you forward to me the names of people associated with your club that went to war. Not just those who made the ultimate sacrifice but those who came back.
It is hoped when all the names have been collated, to produce three books of remembrance. One each to be given to The Rugby League Heritage Centre, one to the RFL HQ at Red Hall and one to the National Arboretum in Staffordshire. The details will also be passed to the CWGC for inclusion on their website.
Also, I will create a register of where their final resting places are, if the fallen are buried in this country, I would like some volunteers to tend their final resting place so they aren’t forgotten.
So, please send me the names of those brave people from the rugby league community who answered the call. I don’t mind being told many times about one person. It would be very sad if we missed out someone who should be remembered!
You can either reply to this thread, PM me or email me directly to the project email rlwarheroes@yahoo.co.uk
Thank you in advance for your help with this project.
[i“They shall not grow old, as we that are left grow old. Age shall not weary them, nor, the years condemn. At the going down of the sun and in the morning, WE will remember them!”[/i
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One of my big interests in life is the two World Wars, wargraves and the memorials to those who served this country. I am a local volunteer with the Commonwealth War Graves Commission (CWGC) and have adopted a number of wargraves of Battle of Britain pilots. I give them a clean and tidy to maintain their appearance, befitting of the person who made the ultimate sacrifice for this country. I am not sure if you have ever had a look at the CWGC website but on it is a publication listing rugby players who have served their country in its time of need.
This is a link to it:- www.cwgc.org/admin/files/Rugby%20leaflet.pdf
As you can see, there aren’t any rugby league people on it. I have spoken to the CWGC people and I have been given the go ahead to produce a list of rugby league people who answered their countries call in time of conflict. I have been in contact with Stevo and we agree this is something that doesn’t exist but we have agreed it needs to exist!
I have written to all the clubs for the names of people who served this country in a time of conflict. This is where you guys and gals can help. Please could you forward to me the names of people associated with your club that went to war. Not just those who made the ultimate sacrifice but those who came back.
It is hoped when all the names have been collated, to produce three books of remembrance. One each to be given to The Rugby League Heritage Centre, one to the RFL HQ at Red Hall and one to the National Arboretum in Staffordshire. The details will also be passed to the CWGC for inclusion on their website.
Also, I will create a register of where their final resting places are, if the fallen are buried in this country, I would like some volunteers to tend their final resting place so they aren’t forgotten.
So, please send me the names of those brave people from the rugby league community who answered the call. I don’t mind being told many times about one person. It would be very sad if we missed out someone who should be remembered!
You can either reply to this thread, PM me or email me directly to the project email rlwarheroes@yahoo.co.uk
Thank you in advance for your help with this project.
[i“They shall not grow old, as we that are left grow old. Age shall not weary them, nor, the years condemn. At the going down of the sun and in the morning, WE will remember them!”[/i
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| Amazed that no-one from Hull has answered this seeing as you have a VC in Jack Harrison from the Great War.
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| Sorry mate wouldn't know where to start.
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| Quote ="Teessidewire"Amazed that no-one from Hull has answered this seeing as you have a VC in Jack Harrison from the Great War.'"
Possibly they have e-mailed him directly?
I'll be sending the OP a copy of a pamphlet covering Jack Harrison's brief life. Unfortunately, like many other fallen in WW1, Jack's grave is unknown. Jack's only son, Jackie, was also killed during the Dunkerque evacuation in WW2
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| Quote ="cod'ead"Possibly they have e-mailed him directly?
I'll be sending the OP a copy of a pamphlet covering Jack Harrison's brief life. Unfortunately, like many other fallen in WW1, Jack's grave is unknown. Jack's only son, Jackie, was also killed during the Dunkerque evacuation in WW2'"
I e-mailed direct. Was very proud that my 10 year son chose Jack for school project about someone famous connected with Hull. The rest of the class chose the usual suspects(Wilberforce, Amy Johnson, Craig Fitzgibbon, Michael Dobson and Shaun Long). The only thing my son learnt about Shaun was that he had his first cigarette aged 10!
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| Thank you to all FC fans who have either pm'ed or emailed me directly. Yes, Jack Harrison VC has been mentioned and to be honest over the next week or so, I will be reading all about this man and his exploits. It is a shame that he, like so many others has no known grave. Also what is the full name of the person who was killed during the Dunkirk evacuation?
Thank you all again for your help so far with this project.
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| Quote ="Chorley Rhino"Thank you to all FC fans who have either pm'ed or emailed me directly. Yes, Jack Harrison VC has been mentioned and to be honest over the next week or so, I will be reading all about this man and his exploits. It is a shame that he, like so many others has no known grave. [uAlso what is the full name of the person who was killed during the Dunkirk evacuation?[/u
Thank you all again for your help so far with this project.'"
It was Jack's son Jackie, or John as he came to be known. There are more details in the info I e-mailed to you.
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| I know he wasn't actually killed, but Hull had a great Aussie forward prior to WW1 called Steve Darmody, who signed on at the end of the 1911/12 Aussie tour. This must have been bigs news at the time. Sounds like he was a pacy attacking player in the mould of Willie Manu.
Anyway, he volunteered for the Army and lost a foot in action. Undeterred, he joined the Royal Flying Corps and used a prosthetic leg/foot.
Of course he was unable to play rugby again, so although it wasn't the ultimate sacrifice the bloke ended up losing his carerer due to serving in the war which makes him worthy of recognition in my eyes.
Not sure what happened to him later although I know Hull played a benefit match for him after the war.
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On the Commonwealth Wargraves Commision Website they acknowledge that John Harrison was indeed a Hull rugby league player.
www.cwgc.org/search/certificate. ... lty=785562
www.cwgc.org/search/casualty_det ... lty=785562
Sadly like so many of them he has no known grave. I am currently reading the book This Righteous War by B.S. Barnes which has a couple of features of John.
It says that he thrilled the Hull fans with his dashing three quarters play. The story of how he won his VC is - well - outstanding. A very brave man and a credit to your club and the anniversary of his death was this month. Does his former home at 75 Wharncliffe Street, Spring Bank, Hull still exist?
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On the Commonwealth Wargraves Commision Website they acknowledge that John Harrison was indeed a Hull rugby league player.
www.cwgc.org/search/certificate. ... lty=785562
www.cwgc.org/search/casualty_det ... lty=785562
Sadly like so many of them he has no known grave. I am currently reading the book This Righteous War by B.S. Barnes which has a couple of features of John.
It says that he thrilled the Hull fans with his dashing three quarters play. The story of how he won his VC is - well - outstanding. A very brave man and a credit to your club and the anniversary of his death was this month. Does his former home at 75 Wharncliffe Street, Spring Bank, Hull still exist?
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| Did John Harrison play in the 1914 cup final?
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| Jack Harrison played in the 1914 cup final, scoring Hull's first try.
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| James Sanders who played for Leeds that day, and got injured thus missing the replay was a Leeds Pal who also died in the First World War.
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Quote ="Chorley Rhino"On the Commonwealth Wargraves Commision Website they acknowledge that John Harrison was indeed a Hull rugby league player.
www.cwgc.org/search/certificate. ... lty=785562
www.cwgc.org/search/casualty_det ... lty=785562
Sadly like so many of them he has no known grave. I am currently reading the book This Righteous War by B.S. Barnes which has a couple of features of John.
It says that he thrilled the Hull fans with his dashing three quarters play. The story of how he won his VC is - well - outstanding. A very brave man and a credit to your club and the anniversary of his death was this month. Does his former home at 75 Wharncliffe Street, Spring Bank, Hull still exist?'"
Thanks for the link, very interesting. Wharncliffe Street is still there, it's a short walk from the KC and the site of The Boulevard.
Jack Harrison's record for Hull was 101 appearances, 91 tries, two goals and 270 points. The tries included the club record of 52 in one season, 1914-15 which is unlikely to ever be beaten.
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Quote ="Chorley Rhino"On the Commonwealth Wargraves Commision Website they acknowledge that John Harrison was indeed a Hull rugby league player.
www.cwgc.org/search/certificate. ... lty=785562
www.cwgc.org/search/casualty_det ... lty=785562
Sadly like so many of them he has no known grave. I am currently reading the book This Righteous War by B.S. Barnes which has a couple of features of John.
It says that he thrilled the Hull fans with his dashing three quarters play. The story of how he won his VC is - well - outstanding. A very brave man and a credit to your club and the anniversary of his death was this month. Does his former home at 75 Wharncliffe Street, Spring Bank, Hull still exist?'"
Thanks for the link, very interesting. Wharncliffe Street is still there, it's a short walk from the KC and the site of The Boulevard.
Jack Harrison's record for Hull was 101 appearances, 91 tries, two goals and 270 points. The tries included the club record of 52 in one season, 1914-15 which is unlikely to ever be beaten.
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| Quote ="ComeOnYouUll"Thanks for the link, very interesting. Wharncliffe Street is still there, it's a short walk from the KC and the site of The Boulevard.
Jack Harrison's record for Hull was 101 appearances, 91 tries, two goals and 270 points. The tries included the club record of 52 in one season, 1914-15 which is unlikely to ever be beaten.'"
He also shares the record of tries in consecutive games with Horney I believe.
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| Harrison also won the MC didn't he? Must have been an exceptional man.
As an aside, I visited the British war cemetry in Bayeux a couple of years back whilst on holiday in France. very moving experience
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| Some further reading for anyone interested.
Author [url=http://www.amazon.co.uk/David-Bilton/e/B001JP2E0E/ref=ntt_athr_dp_pel_1David Bilton[/url has penned a number of books including: Oppy Wood, Hull Pals & The Trench. The latter prompting the BBC to make a cack-handed "reality TV" programme in 2002
Don't forget [url=http://www.woodlandtrust.org.uk/en/our-woods/Pages/about-this-wood.aspx?wood=4963Oppy Wood[/url, a Woodland Trust site NW of Hull
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"Harrison also won the MC didn't he? Must have been an exceptional man.
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He did and he was. His MC citation appeared in The London Gazette on 17 April 1917 and his VC citation on 14 June 1917 - less than two months apart. His acts of bravery actually occurred on 20 February (MC) and 3 May (VC)
Here's the positive plaster cast that the mould was made from to cast the bronze plaque for Jack's memorial at the KC
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| Quote ="cod'ead"He did and he was. His MC citation appeared in The London Gazette on 17 April 1917 and his VC citation on 14 June 1917 - less than two months apart. His acts of bravery actually occurred on 20 February (MC) and 3 May (VC)
Here's the positive plaster cast that the mould was made from to cast the bronze plaque for Jack's memorial at the KC'"
the original FC legend and only true FC Hero
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