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| One of my major bug bears.
Agar you are a clown. Sort this out. Westerman on the bench? Whiting only came on after 71 minutes? A few more bizarre forward rotations?
Get a grip, this is killing you and sort it out Agar
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| Put it right then give us an insight into your thinking. Lets have your rotaton sysytem for us all to see what should he have done.? we looked very good. the interchanges worked. Westerman hasnt trained nuch due to a virus. Nip down to Brantingham yourself and tell Hame to go.................oh hold on...............internet coach!!!!! Baaaa Baaaaa get off there backs and talk about a really good victory its gettin boring
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| First of all Agar explained in the post match interview that Westerman has been stuggling with a chest infection and hasnt trained much. Also its either going to be him or Manu that starts and by going with Manu you cant say we lost anything.
As for Whiting, he was on the bench as utility, hes not like a prop who is there to be rotated, and as we were playing well Agar saw no need for him, why make a change just for the hell of it?
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| absolutley correct Mr Head
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| I thought the interchanges were about right myself.
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| Agar was bang on the money tonight with his interchanges for me. Like people have mentioned Westerman had a virus all week and Whiting was used as utility. We'd just taken the lead with around 10mins to go and Bradford was probably gonna try to pepper our right side so putting Whiting on who's a bit more assured under the high ball and defensively was the right thing to do imo.
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| Biggest issue with his interchanges last night was keeping fitzs on for the 80. He was out on his feet towards the end
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"Biggest issue with his interchanges last night was keeping fitzs on for the 80. He was out on his feet towards the end'"
Fitz came off after the second Briscoe try when the game was in the bag. I get the impression Fitz himself refuses to leave the field if he thinks he is needed.
Totally admire his leadership and attitude to the cause but it is a long season and you do wonder how he will cope later in the year putting all these minutes in now.
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| Quote ="knocker norton"Fitz came off after the second Briscoe try when the game was in the bag. I get the impression Fitz himself refuses to leave the field if he thinks he is needed.
Totally admire his leadership and attitude to the cause but it is a long season and you do wonder how he will cope later in the year putting all these minutes in now.'"
Must have missed him coming off but there were less than 2 minutes left anyway I presume.
I think fitz is a warrior but as you say he'll no doubt suffer later in the season for being flogged now. We also look painfully slow in attack when he stands at 1st receiver
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| Whiting should have been on in place of Horne who for for 70mins was awful yet again...gets 1 lucky kick away for Briscoes 1st and sets up 2nd...sorry but i want my 6 doing more than crap kicks and getting caught in possesion.
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| Fitz was knackered in the final quarter , entirely understandably. OK so Whiting was a utility but why not use that utility to give Fitz a spell? It's not as if Whiting is a threequarter is it! We'd surely get more quality minutes out of Fitz if he played a few less and we'll be more liely to still have him on the pitch later in the year rather than injured/burnt out. The game's too hard to play it with 16 men by choice.
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| Thought Moa also looked like his second spell was a touch too long, he was out on his feet when they were down to 12 men. Also thought we could have used that spell to give Fitz a short rest.
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| Quote ="Mr. Zucchini Head"First of all Agar explained in the post match interview that Westerman has been stuggling with a chest infection and hasnt trained much. Also its either going to be him or Manu that starts and by going with Manu you cant say we lost anything.'"
Yep, which makes perfect sense.
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| Although I understand he was ill in the week, I'm still puzzled by giving Westy just 7 minutes before HT. People mentioned that the HT sub rule has changed so a change just before HT means that a player can start the second half, but I still find it odd when rotations are made so close to HT.
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| Sharp was having a nightmare, at fault for at least 1 of their tries last night...Should of come off alot earlier if you ask me.
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| Quote ="ELI"Put it right then give us an insight into your thinking. Lets have your rotaton sysytem for us all to see what should he have done.? we looked very good. the interchanges worked. Westerman hasnt trained nuch due to a virus. Nip down to Brantingham yourself and tell Hame to go.................oh hold on...............internet coach!!!!! Baaaa Baaaaa get off there backs and talk about a really good victory its gettin boring'"
I am not griping about the way we played, I thought it was good. In my opinion a player is either fit or not, that includes the bench. Also in my opinion you should never attempt to play with 16 players. Clearly you should utilise the bench more effectively. I don't understand why I should go to Brantingham to tell lauaki anything. It's just my opinion on an internet forum. Get over yourself.
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| Quote ="hull smallears"Agar you are a clown.'"
He speaks really highly of you apparently.
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| Although Sharp carries an attacking threat, his defence is somewhat lacking. I thought the decision to bring on Whiting late in the game was spot on. The game was won and with Whitings better defence we had a far more solid look. Agar was closing down the game. Whiting may not like the utility player tag but he is such a good utility player and as such the ideal player to have on the bench. I bet all of us breathed a big sigh of relief when Rich replaced Sharp. He must have the safest, most unflappable pair of hands in the game.
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| Quote ="Mr. Zucchini Head"First of all Agar explained in the post match interview that Westerman has been stuggling with a chest infection and hasnt trained much. Also its either going to be him or Manu that starts and by going with Manu you cant say we lost anything.
As for Whiting, he was on the bench as utility, hes not like a prop who is there to be rotated, and as we were playing well Agar saw no need for him, why make a change just for the hell of it?'"
My only issue with this is why have a player occupying a bench spot for the sake of it as a 'utility' in a kind of 'just incase' mind set. It could have been used for a further prop or second row to offer a bit more rotation. In hindsight, we didn't really need it last night and I thought all the forwards did well last night and Danny Houghton seems to relish playing 80 mins. However, week after next I imagine Obst will be back on the bench so it won't be an issue.
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| Quote ="fc baldy"Whiting should have been on in place of Horne who for for 70mins was awful yet again...gets 1 lucky kick away for Briscoes 1st and sets up 2nd...sorry but i want my 6 doing more than crap kicks and getting caught in possesion.'"
To be fair he did back up well when players made a break, often the only player to do so.
But it should be his last season with us.
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| Quote ="hull smallears"One of my major bug bears.
Agar you are a clown. Sort this out. Westerman on the bench? Whiting only came on after 71 minutes? A few more bizarre forward rotations?
Get a grip, this is killing you and sort it out Agar'"
Got them right last night . And got the 2 points.
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| ah right, never saw that and its first ive heard of it
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| Quote ="fc baldy"Whiting should have been on in place of Horne who for for 70mins was awful yet again...gets 1 lucky kick away for Briscoes 1st and sets up 2nd...sorry but i want my 6 doing more than crap kicks and getting caught in possesion.'"
Thought Horne played well, was involved in a lot of the good stuff.
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