Agree the guy needs to go but we will end up in the same place 18 months from now if we change coach

Why?

The employers.

The board of this club are a joke, they stripped out the heatbeat of this club, they removed good passionate guys and brought in sterile nothings. If Agar goes it will be the same people with the same work ethics and beliefs, so they will hire ANOTHER boring yes man.

To be told last night that "all the players are behind Agar and reckon hes alright" really does fill me with fear.

We actually had a decent 17 out there last night, including 4 challenge cup winners from 2005

Please Kath et all, feck off, sell this club to someone who cares, someone who can show an ounce of passion and belief. Someone who can take the club off life support and bring it back to life.

Hull FC need a shot in the arm, a big one before more damage is done.

we need a top coach to take us forward if we go with another cheap average ccoach then yeh we most probable be in the same posistion in 18 mounths

Another Agar thread, we have several others.

As it's more about the board then no worries.

If the Wetherills are fed up, why are they not touting their 30%+ for sale??

Is it really Kath putting people off?

Do you really expect to be told anything else

The contracts handed out at Hull must be too good!

They have been for sale for some time from what I am told, but the people who were/are interested want to take the full club on, and Kath talks telephone numbers for the cost of her shares.

But if Kath is at 20% (cant remember exatly) why not get the 80% and force a sale............

not everyone wants to sell, you have to remember these people have pumped a lot of their own money in, they want a return on their investment.

From what we are told there is no "debt" to the board, so its just profits now for shareholders......

of course there is debt, it's just internal to directors.

and why should they not make a profit?

Hull FC isn't a charity, and it isn't being run by philanthropists.

Or people who love Hull FC for that matter

fans don't always make the best directors/shareholders

Tried to enlighten one of your own in "FC Wembley 08" as to how you should be furious with your teams performance last week:



And it seems nothing has changed this week either. Richard Agar has got to go. You have a very good squad with an excellent pack, some good backs and two very experienced - if a little injury prone - halfbacks. You should NOT be losing to Wakefield at home (no disrespect to Wakefield intended).

As has been said lots before, but someone with a love of FC might help.....

When Rule was asked about debt at a fans forum last season he stated that the club was completely debt free.

Many businesses are "debt free", which can often mean they do not owe money to external agencies, it is all an internal debt.

My business "owes" me money, but if you ran a credit check it would come up as "debt free".

Anyway, it's largely irrelevant, our current shareholders have their own idea of what their shares are worth.

I did notice last night a few players are sponsored by "The Addams Family" or other such small sponsors, what happened to the likes of Campbell Engineering, Stockill etc.

Recession, or Jimmy's attitude?

I will not set foot in KC whilst we have that tool in charge, passionless, cluesless and fking useless, i will not waste anymore money

if only a few thousand people more decided not to go to games

The question was asked in direct relation to the often quoted 1.6 Million pounds we owed at one time and how much of that we still owed. Rule quite clearly stated that we no longer owed any of that money.

Perhaps Mrs B can clear this up.

Not sure that I can, because we only file abbreviated accounts. This means that whilst we can see the total value of creditors, and the profit made, we don't get any detail of either. What I can say is that the creditors number has reduced substantially since 2004 and it's reasonable to assume that the amount owed to the directors is a big factor in this. You are correct in that Rule has stated that the club is "debt free" but we still have "creditors" which can be a whole host of things, from accruals of electric bills not yet invoiced, to season passes paid for before the end of November for the following season, to amounts owed to HMRC.

to be fair to the board the lack of small sponsorships (such as match ball sponsors, player sponsors etc) is hitting all sports due to the recession. Marketing departments just don't have the cash to splash on jolly days out at the rugby like they used to.

I'm not saying they haven't annoyed any company at some point...but its a different commercial world to 2-3 years ago.

Well thats as clear as mud

I've probably just inadvertantly fallen for the spin at the time then

You mean all their birthdays came at once when they left Gateshead to go to a potentially massive club.

far from it