SO WHAT DO WE THINK.........

SHAME WE DIDNT NIL THEM WOULD OF BEEN NICE.....BUT OVERALL LOOKED A LOT BETTER AND PLAYED SOME GOOD RUGBY....

STILL NEED TO TIGHTEN UP IN DEFENCE AT TIMES AND ALTHOUGH WE WERE TRYING TO PLAY OUT OUR OWN 20....SILLY MISTAKES WILL COS POINTS AGAINST BETTER TEAMS.....

WESTERMAN MOTM???????

HORNE GETTING BACK TO SOMEWHERE NEAR HIS BEST???

OBST HAD A GOOD GAME???

WHAT WILL PHELPS BRING IF HE PLAYS AT WIGAN NEXT WEEK??

MY HEAD HURTS.

I think it's unnecessary for you to use more than one question mark and type entirely in capitals.


It makes you look thick.

It is good to finally get a win, hopefully the team will improve even more next week at Wigan.

PS..Take your capitals off

CABMAN anybody

we beat a very poor cruaders tonite,nothing to get tooo excited about but were off the mark

we need a good performance at wigan next week a win would be nice but its important that we get an improvment on the performance

Popped along tonight.

Your goal line defence was much improved, particularly in the first half when Crusaders had the bulk of the play. You'll need this next week.

Showed a lot more creativity with the ball.

Finishing looked a lot sharper.

Attacking kicking in the danger zone was good.

Need to improve defending from further out.

Kicking for territory needs a bit more work.

Obst better than a poke in the eye with a sharp stick.

Moa needs more game time.

Interchanges a bit odd...

No need to panic, no need to get over excited either...a stepping stone.

I don't think anybody in the right mind is getting carried away but it's an improvement. The improvement began last week for me at Hudds, the team defended well last week and put in a lot of effort and this week although against a poor crusaders team they showed even more improvement, that now needs to continue next week at Wigan.

We were better tonight, but still a way to go. Positives were:

- Better use of interchanges, even Fitzgibbon got a rest.
- We scored over 40 points.
- 2 or 3 of the tries were genuinely good rugby.

Negatives:

- We are still embarassingly disorganised at times. Silly things like our 2 props Moa and Lauaki stood only a yard apart at 2nd receiver not knowing who's getting the ball, or when following a break down one side and from the ptb we need to shift the ball quickly to the other wing, Radford is at 1st receiver.
- Still a few strange positional choices.
- Comments on here have been right; the play really does slow down when Fitzgibbon receives the ball, and he also threw a few bad passes out. Work rate is unquestionable and his tackling is phenomenal, but him receiving the ball early in the play is a weakness when we're in possession.
- Ball control is still sloppy, with some questionable decisions of when to offload.
- Kicking game still not good enough. Better than it has been tonight, but still only ordinary rather than good.
- Hard to get a read of how much better we really were, as the opposition were really poor. I was surprised at just how weak their pack was, first 10 minutes aside.

Fair comments

Discipline was superb tonight can count on 1 hand the amount of penalties we conceeded.

Our attack was pretty much the same as it has been for a long while the main difference is that in Obst we have a 7 who doesn't mind taking a whack and is actually a threat with the ball, was very impressed with the little fella my Man of the Match.

The winning the collision is still a poor area that still needs a ton of work as only Briscoe, Ogre and Moa tend to get a win for us. Wigan next week won't make the stupid reads in defense that Cru did tonight with a set line

TBH cant knock what he's said , some good fair points

Decent game from Thaler I thought. Barely noticed him.

Another true ish point.

Let the game flow, but was pretty lax with offsides and forward passes (although he did pull up a couple). Was the same for both sides though, so you can't complain too much.

got to agree the only mistake i can call him making was when briscoe and yeamen dragged a cru player into touch which technically is a penalty and whilst on the subject i think the standard of reffing this season has been very good

That rule is one of several that are applied very inconsistently IMO.

agree stupid rule but good to see the refs staying out of games and letting the game flow

right in front of us, correct call no penalty, cru player was still moving, both feet seemed to be on the ground

Positives:-

Goal line defence was very much improved, especially during one particularly tough spell in the first half.
We had a pari of halves who complimented each other.
Our attacking kicks were good.
Interchanges were better.

Negatives:-
Long kicking game was still poor.
We switched off to late two late tries in.
Fitz still being played out of position, he is too slow for the back three and needs to be playing prop.
Wingers still got no decent ball.

It should have been a penalty. It dosnt matter if his feet don't leave the ground or is still moving. You cannot drag a player into touch, that rule change started at the beginning of last season

My understanding of this stupid rule is that you can push them into touch as long as their feet are in contact with the floor at all times and it becomes a penalty if some one pulls them, feet come off the floor or momentum has stopped. I thought it was a penalty to be honest as I think it was yeaman who began to pull the player into touch but fortunately got away with it. To many grey areas to this type of penalty.

also if one of the ball carrier's teammates joins the tackle then held has to be called immediately, if it moves after held is called it is also a penalty apparently (not saying this happnened last night, just adding to your general point)

That confirms how confusing it is to control on the field. My 2 gripes are the point you've made as they should only call held if momentum is stopped by their team mate been involved and the feet off the floor, the tackling players will have no intention of lifting his feet off the floor but what's to stop the attacking player using the defenders as leverage to lift his feet and give the impression that he has been lifted. As I said to many grey areas,