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| Agar's here for the foreseeable future, whether we like it or not. So let's get into what we would like to see improve on Friday and the coming weeks.
For me:
Defensive line speed. As has been discussed we're pants defending out wide so this needs to drastically improve for us to try and keep teams down the middle as much as possible.
Basics. The amount of unforced errors is worrying, even more so the people who are committing them, Whiting, Fitz, Houghton & Tickle.
Positional.Would like to see Fitz moved up to the front row and Westerman at 13 with Lauaki, Manu and Tickle in the 2nd row (This can also be done by Fitz and Lauaki swapping but I would prefer to see Lauaki running out wide).
I'd like to see our 2nd rowers running out wide more also.
The "Wrestle"We're losing the floor too easily for my liking, allowing teams to run over the top of us and make easy metres. Considering we're playing the best in the business at it next week we need to improve a lot.
Kicking It's shocking at the minute, would like to see Whiting utilised more for field position, Westerman kicking penalties into touch and now Horne is back, his short kicking game is good enough imo.
All things i think are easily rectified and only 1 or 2 needing the coaches input, fortunately.
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| Quote ="east hull FC fan"Agar's here for the foreseeable future, whether we like it or not. So let's get into what we would like to see improve on Friday and the coming weeks.
For me:
Defensive line speed. As has been discussed we're pants defending out wide so this needs to drastically improve for us to try and keep teams down the middle as much as possible.
Basics. The amount of unforced errors is worrying, even more so the people who are committing them, Whiting, Fitz, Houghton & Tickle.
Positional.Would like to see Fitz moved up to the front row and Westerman at 13 with Lauaki, Manu and Tickle in the 2nd row (This can also be done by Fitz and Lauaki swapping but I would prefer to see Lauaki running out wide).
I'd like to see our 2nd rowers running out wide more also.
The "Wrestle"We're losing the floor too easily for my liking, allowing teams to run over the top of us and make easy metres. Considering we're playing the best in the business at it next week we need to improve a lot.
Kicking It's shocking at the minute, would like to see Whiting utilised more for field position, Westerman kicking penalties into touch and now Horne is back, his short kicking game is good enough imo.
All things i think are easily rectified and only 1 or 2 needing the coaches input, fortunately.
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spot on on everything there
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| I'd also stop using interchanges. Waste of time. Back in the 50's they never even had substitutions and players spent 80 hours a week down the pit. This lot are soft and should all be doing 80 minutes a week and then we can get rid of that moa bloke altogether
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| Speed at the PTB needs improving as well, get the defenses on the back foot.
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"I'd also stop using interchanges. Waste of time. Back in the 50's they never even had substitutions and players spent 80 hours a week down the pit. This lot are soft and should all be doing 80 minutes a week and then we can get rid of that moa bloke altogether'" The bench is shocking, should of been first on the list tbh. Only using 3 is not the norm but other coaches have done the same. Moa needs more game time and the 2nd rowers better rotated.
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| Quote ="hullbg"Speed at the PTB needs improving as well, get the defenses on the back foot.'" Kind of covered that in the "wrestle" bit, meant for both attack and defense, you're right though.
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| Got to agry but why we don't just kick ball dead from our own half annoys me at least they all have to go back and play the ball from the 20 while we are prepared for it .
Saying this as see only way to put telling kicks in.
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| Quote ="east hull FC fan"Agar's here for the foreseeable future, whether we like it or not. So let's get into what we would like to see improve on Friday and the coming weeks.
For me:
Defensive line speed. As has been discussed we're pants defending out wide so this needs to drastically improve for us to try and keep teams down the middle as much as possible.
Basics. The amount of unforced errors is worrying, even more so the people who are committing them, Whiting, Fitz, Houghton & Tickle.
Positional.Would like to see Fitz moved up to the front row and Westerman at 13 with Lauaki, Manu and Tickle in the 2nd row (This can also be done by Fitz and Lauaki swapping but I would prefer to see Lauaki running out wide).
I'd like to see our 2nd rowers running out wide more also.
The "Wrestle"We're losing the floor too easily for my liking, allowing teams to run over the top of us and make easy metres. Considering we're playing the best in the business at it next week we need to improve a lot.
Kicking It's shocking at the minute, would like to see Whiting utilised more for field position, Westerman kicking penalties into touch and now Horne is back, his short kicking game is good enough imo.
All things i think are easily rectified and only 1 or 2 needing the coaches input, fortunately.
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Supporting the ball-carrier. And I think Houghton's long kicking game could also be used more. Done a few 40/20s IIRC.
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| More push to attract and fix defenders and give the ball players more options.
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"Supporting the ball-carrier.'"
I'd of hoped that was covered in the basica!
Quote ="Mrs Barista"And I think Houghton's long kicking game could also be used more. Done a few 40/20s IIRC.'" 1 or 2, good point. He has done it once or twice this year iirc, but probably not enough.
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| More than one runner for the ball would be a refreshing change.
Like Mrs B states, Support play is a must and is such a basic part of the game it's sad that we don;t see it.
Would also like to see our attacking line deeper, it is flatter than our defensive line the majority of the time.
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| Quote ="east hull FC fan"Agar's here for the foreseeable future, whether we like it or not. So let's get into what we would like to see improve on Friday and the coming weeks.
For me:
Defensive line speed. As has been discussed we're pants defending out wide so this needs to drastically improve for us to try and keep teams down the middle as much as possible.
Basics. The amount of unforced errors is worrying, even more so the people who are committing them, Whiting, Fitz, Houghton & Tickle.
Positional.Would like to see Fitz moved up to the front row and Westerman at 13 with Lauaki, Manu and Tickle in the 2nd row (This can also be done by Fitz and Lauaki swapping but I would prefer to see Lauaki running out wide).
I'd like to see our 2nd rowers running out wide more also.
The "Wrestle"We're losing the floor too easily for my liking, allowing teams to run over the top of us and make easy metres. Considering we're playing the best in the business at it next week we need to improve a lot.
Kicking It's shocking at the minute, would like to see Whiting utilised more for field position, Westerman kicking penalties into touch and now Horne is back, his short kicking game is good enough imo.
All things i think are easily rectified and only 1 or 2 needing the coaches input, fortunately.
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I'd agree with that, think we also need to use players in their correct position, use the pivots more in attack to give more optioins going forwards, better rotation of the bench!
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| Quote ="east hull FC fan"Agar's here for the foreseeable future, whether we like it or not. So let's get into what we would like to see improve on Friday and the coming weeks.
For me:
Defensive line speed. As has been discussed we're pants defending out wide so this needs to drastically improve for us to try and keep teams down the middle as much as possible.
Basics. The amount of unforced errors is worrying, even more so the people who are committing them, Whiting, Fitz, Houghton & Tickle.
Positional.Would like to see Fitz moved up to the front row and Westerman at 13 with Lauaki, Manu and Tickle in the 2nd row (This can also be done by Fitz and Lauaki swapping but I would prefer to see Lauaki running out wide).
I'd like to see our 2nd rowers running out wide more also.
The "Wrestle"We're losing the floor too easily for my liking, allowing teams to run over the top of us and make easy metres. Considering we're playing the best in the business at it next week we need to improve a lot.
Kicking It's shocking at the minute, would like to see Whiting utilised more for field position, Westerman kicking penalties into touch and now Horne is back, his short kicking game is good enough imo.
All things i think are easily rectified and only 1 or 2 needing the coaches input, fortunately.
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When are you applying for the Head Coaches job?
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| Quote ="seany68"When are you applying for the Head Coaches job?
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The sad thing is most supporters can see these glaring problems, so surely Agar can as well. The same problems we have had for a long time yet we see nothing happening to rectify them.
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| Agree with all of the comments on here (especially Jakes )
I'd also add that when we have the gameplan, wait till the coaches have left the dressing room before the game, then rip it up, flush it down the loo and go and play off the cuff, instinctive rugby.
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| Everything here is spot on, especially the positional side as Westerman is waste as a 2nd row.
We need to run a second phase more than anything IMO, Although this would probably come under the basics
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| Quote ="Ogre"Everything here is spot on, especially the positional side as Westerman is waste as a 2nd row.
We need to run a second phase more than anything IMO, Although this would probably come under the basics'"
Exactly, he was signed as a LF so why play him as a SR and then complain that our pivots aren't working for us at the minute, they won't if they're not in the right position
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| Quote ="Chris28"Agree with all of the comments on here (especially Jakes
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I'd also add that when we have the gameplan, wait till the coaches have left the dressing room before the game, then rip it up, flush it down the loo and go and play off the cuff, instinctive rugby.'"
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| But Westerman isn't a pivot,have you been watching the game for the last two years?,can you tell me,the Cas fans and T.Materson when Westerman was the pivot for Cas,he is a wide running second rower and an average one at that,oh, and one that can't tackle.
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| Quote ="Carlotti"But Westerman isn't a pivot,have you been watching the game for the last two years?,can you tell me,the Cas fans and T.Materson when Westerman was the pivot for Cas,he is a wide running second rower and an average one at that,oh, and one that can't tackle.'"
I'm sure that's the case. Thanks.
Oh and just so you know, he'll be used as the link out wide not a central pivot.
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| Is it or isn't it,whats your opinion,mines on record,what's your's.
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| Quote ="Carlotti"Is it or isn't it,whats your opinion,mines on record,what's your's.'"
My opinion is that hes very good at ghosting through gaps and has good hands, starting him at 13 gives him freedom of movement, he can attack down both sides and can get quicker ball to our wingers.
It all depends on whether he's used correctly.
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"Supporting the ball-carrier..'"
Amen.
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| Quote ="Bal"Amen.'"
Something that i expect Horne and Phelps to help with.
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| Quote ="east hull FC fan"Something that i expect Horne and Phelps to help with.'"
Praying?
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