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| I will probably get shot down for this, but...
Jordan Turner shouldn't be anywhere near the 6 or 7 positions.
He has no initiative to do his own thing, every time he gets the ball he does what it says in the playbook.
Richard Horne, Sean Long, Sam Obst and dare I say, Danny Washbrook might call for the ball to perform a 'set play' but if that play is no longer on, they will do their own thing.
Turner recieves the ball and passes it.. He is not an answer to our problem.
He should never be playing there again.
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| Dont agree. Turner wasnt too bad on sunday imo. He put a neat little pass out for one of Yeamans tries and the bullet pass was only slightly out and that would of put Lyne away. Id rather have Turner at S/O than Washy
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| Quote ="Sebasteeno"Dont agree. Turner wasnt too bad on sunday imo. He put a neat little pass out for one of Yeamans tries and the bullet pass was only slightly out and that would of put Lyne away. Id rather have Turner at S/O than Washy'"
Agreed, seemed to try something different at least and took it to the line at every opportunity. We dropped a couple of his passes that also could of led to opportunities.
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| It's a hard one to really be definitive on yet. I agree he doesn't seem to have any initiative but surely that starts to come the more gametime you have in that position.
Washy is a real no-no in that position for me though.
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| Quote ="Newsom 13"I will probably get shot down for this, but...
Jordan Turner shouldn't be anywhere near the 6 or 7 positions.
He has no initiative to do his own thing, every time he gets the ball he does what it says in the playbook.
Richard Horne, Sean Long, Sam Obst and dare I say, Danny Washbrook might call for the ball to perform a 'set play' but if that play is no longer on, they will do their own thing.
Turner recieves the ball and passes it.. He is not an answer to our problem.
He should never be playing there again.'"
Agree in part. I think he did OK yesterday with the ball as we showed up much better as a team inside the opposition's 20 and he played his part in that. I don't agree Washbrook would do better. However he was described as a running SO and I think that's a fair description - nippy and off-the-cuff he certainly isn't.
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| I hope he doesn't have to play there again now we have both Obst and Phelps who can do a decent job at 6, but he was the best option yesterday. The fact that Washy never even made the bench yesterday leaving us with no cover at 6,7, or 9 speaks volumes imho.
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| Im going to defend Turner here, imo its down to your coach to get the best out of your players especially the younger ones when it comes to pointing them in the right direction. It seems the coach just throws kids a shirt and says "your playing 6 this week, you know what to do"
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| Shouldn't be anywhere near the 13.
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| Quote ="Carlotti"Shouldn't be anywhere near the 13.'"
Nor should Fitz, Westerman should be playing 13
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| seemed to go ok to me??
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| Another G.Horne.
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| Quote ="fc baldy"Another G.Horne.'"
He'll be playing prop at Hudds and challenging in a few years then?
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| Quote ="east hull FC fan"He'll be playing prop at Hudds and challenging in a few years then?'"
Thought Graham had a decent game tbh
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| Quote ="berrigans bitch"Thought Graham had a decent game tbh'"
So did I, that's what's worrying!
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| Quote ="east hull FC fan"So did I, that's what's worrying!'"
I have always rated him, but I admit because he is from our club I am biased
I rate Kris Welham because he is also from our club, he also had a good game
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| Quote ="berrigans bitch"I have always rated him, but I admit because he is from our club I am biased
I rate Kris Welham because he is also from our club, he also had a good game
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Welham must be good if he's keeping the future international centre Craig Hall out the team!
Though I can't say I see it myself.
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| Quote ="east hull FC fan"Welham must be good if he's keeping the [ufuture international centre Craig Hall out the team![/u
Though I can't say I see it myself.'"
Noticed he never responded to that one today ...mind you if he scores for them the claims will be back
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| Not a huge Turner fan but he did okay yesterday.
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| I posted yesterday on Turners 'inability to think on his feet': He's a running centre at best and never an off half in a month of Friday nights.
Definitely not good enough to dominate a game or turn one on his own ability for that matter.
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| His best position would be loose forward but we've just spent 150 grand on one
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| IMO Jordan Turner played well at outside half for the first 20 mins. In fact, we were much more direct (and creative) than we were all of last season. What happened afterwards I will have to check out on Sky+ but it seemed that with the mounting penalties we were forced onto the back foot and not able to play expansive. go forward rugby. For the record, Jordan Turner played much of his junior RL at outside half so he should know what he's doing, and he should be there again on Friday night against Leeds.
On another player, I thought that Westerman lacked confidence in those around him. Perhaps it was his first proper game for Hull FC but he needs to play with the ball in his hands and orchestrate moves, not support them.
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"His best position would be loose forward but we've just spent 150 grand on one'"
and benched him and then not played him at LF!
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"His best position would be loose forward but we've just spent 150 grand on one'"
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| Quote ="Standee"and benched him and then not played him at LF!'"
As I mentioned earlier, the coaching team apparently see him playing second row this season as he 'still has a lot to learn'. If they were talking about his one-on-one defence I'd tend to agree.
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| Totally agree with the OP. Even in the first 20 mins when our pack was totally dominant he did nothing of any real note, apart from the pass he threw out straight into touch which was as bad as anything Craig Hall did last year and would have been crucified for. He was utterly non existent bar one crap kick that was far too long. The pass in the build up to our first try was a simple piece of play executed well. That's not enough. Another bad signing. He'll end up a good championship player.
The hype this kid came with wasn't his fault but living over on the wrong side of he hills, I can tell you without a doubt we got the wrong player from salford. Ratchford and Holdsworth are rated far better players and Salfors fans didn't bat an eye lid when he left.
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