Again what a waste of a sub havin hall on the bench. He could have brought him on for Whiting after his shocking first half.

Or he could have put mcshane on the bench and spelled Houghton.

it dont make sense.

Whiting was shocking?

You are having a laugh? Surely?

Replace a player who can defend but is being left out to dry by a defence that's not sliding well with a player who can't defend?

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Hall was there purely to cover the backs in case of any injuries they may have occured.

McShane was injured, rolled over on his ankle.

McShane turned his ankle so wasn't fit to play which is why Hall was on the bench.

There's always one misery.

So the defence never leaves Hall out to dry then?

Whiting had a mare, his defence was woeful, he was out of position for all of Meli's trys, no way is Whiting a winger!!

I don't believe I said that

here here..we beat a quality team and all you can do is moan about why they didnt use hall...pfffft get a grip.

Whiting let in 4 trys on his wing and had a ball stolen out of his hand. He was out of position for at least 2 of them. He's a great player who ormally defends well but in my OPINION i THOUGHT he had a bad first half.

Hall's defence is poor but when he's all you got on the bench who can play that posistion then you've got to give it a try.

They had a huge overlap every time, how is that his fault?

Jesus if you expect him to defend 3 men on this own every time your crazy. He was off tonight but no way was he woeful or out of position.

Hewould be the first to admit he isnt one either, but what other option do we have.

Would Tuffour, Hall, or anyone else have stopped them tries. NO it was due to bad compact defence and not reacting to the Saints fast wide moves

Whiting may have been slightly out of position, but you can't blame him for the massive overlap that occured, that wasn't his fault, nor was the fact that at least 3 of their tries came from a forward pass. It'd have been painful watching Hall in that position. Whiting's far superior, and had a decent second half, I thought.

yeah his second half was much improved, didnt see any forward passes TBH, but at that point in the game i had my head in my hands, fearing a humiliation!! how wrong was i? best 2nd half iv seen for a very long time!

Jesus Wept!! Blaming Whiting for the atrocious defensive structure is just plain stupid.

As is blaming Hall for the same. Or Briscoe the other week.

I've said it all year. Our wingers/centres are over exposed far too easily by the middle defenders being dragged in, but then again, hall is a scapegoat and whiting isnt

Hall gets mainly criticised for his errors and Briscoe generally gets criticised for not dealing with the high ball. Anyone blaming a winger for not dealing with a 3 man overlap is not worth bothering with anyway.

hmmmmmmmmmmm whiting is never shocking,made a mistake or two, but hey so what.

Hall gets blamed for every try scored on his side of the field. Someone actually blamed him for the two late tries that Cas scored when we were down to 12 men just the other day. Briscoe got tweaked during the Cas game when the situation was similar to tonight. With Whiting people are more willing to take the other factors into account.

Easy to say after you won.

The point was Why have a player on the bench if you not going to use him!

Probably the same person who started this thread.