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| Quote ="Big Dave T"news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_league/super_league/hull/8687637.stm'"
Dont agree. |
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| Quote ="Rupert Pupkin"Dont agree.'"
I kind of agree with you. The cap was there in the first place to stop clubs getting into financial difficulty. I guess allowing clubs to spend over that due to injuries may just make it pointless having a cap in the first place. Would probably be a better idea if the SL made clubs only allowed to spend 90% of their cap to use 10% for contingency of injuries? |
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| Quote ="Big Dave T"I kind of agree with you. The cap was there in the first place to stop clubs getting into financial difficulty. I guess allowing clubs to spend over that due to injuries may just make it pointless having a cap in the first place. Would probably be a better idea if the SL made clubs only allowed to spend 90% of their cap to use 10% for contingency of injuries?'"
I'm not just saying I dont agree with the comments just because it's Rule, I just think it's a bad idea. The scrapping of P&R has taken the pressure off situations like this. |
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| Quote ="Rupert Pupkin"I'm not just saying I dont agree with the comments just because it's Rule, I just think it's a bad idea. The scrapping of P&R has taken the pressure off situations like this.'"
Totally agree with you. |
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| Quote ="Big Dave T"I kind of agree with you. The cap was there in the first place to stop clubs getting into financial difficulty. I guess allowing clubs to spend over that due to injuries may just make it pointless having a cap in the first place. Would probably be a better idea if the SL made clubs only allowed to spend 90% of their cap to use 10% for contingency of injuries?'"
But they've changed it now so it doesn't stop that, a club can still spend £1.7m (or thereabouts) even if they only have £1.5m coming in. |
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| Quote ="Rupert Pupkin"I'm not just saying I dont agree with the comments just because it's Rule, I just think it's a bad idea. The scrapping of P&R has taken the pressure off situations like this.'"
As it?
I'm sure there is no pressure on Agar and the board from FC fans to finish higher than 14th. |
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| Quote ="TKOAH"But they've changed it now so it doesn't stop that, a club can still spend £1.7m (or thereabouts) even if they only have £1.5m coming in.'"
Can they? Hadnt noticed that.
Even if theyve changed it what the cap does is minimise the amount a club can overspend. I guess if a club could claim poverty through injuries they'd be able to over stretch themselves even more. |
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| Quote ="TKOAH"As it?
I'm sure there is no pressure on Agar and the board from FC fans to finish higher than 14th.'"
It's been argued that no P&R can take the pressure of a side to win games and allow them to blood more kids etc. |
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| Quote ="Big Dave T"Totally agree with you.'" maybe somthing could be done reguarding short term loan or loan dual contract players which wont count on the cap? just to cover short term injury? |
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| Quote ="Big Dave T"It's been argued that no P&R can take the pressure of a side to win games and allow them to blood more kids etc.'"
Oh you mean like Craig Hall and Reece Lyne?
If there was no pressure and we now can blood youngsters why the hell have we signed McShane from Leeds on loan. |
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| Quote ="BlackNwhite"maybe somthing could be done reguarding short term loan or loan dual contract players which wont count on the cap? just to cover short term injury?'"
Would have to be tightly governed. You'll end up with Warrington bringing in 4 or 5 short term loan deals on 100K each for 4 games that dont count on the cap.  |
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| Quote ="TKOAH"Oh you mean like Craig Hall and Reece Lyne?
If there was no pressure and we now can blood youngsters why the hell have we signed McShane from Leeds on loan.'"
Because we dont have a junior hooker thats ready to step up yet. |
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| Quote ="Big Dave T"Because we dont have a junior hooker thats ready to step up yet.'"
Doesn't have to be ready yet, there is no pressure remember. |
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It would be to open to abuse, how injured would a player have to be to trigger this clause. I can imagine if it is a player who's been ruled out for the season but non of the names mentioned are season ending injuries. What would happen when the players are back would the new signing be released or would the club be allowed to have a full squad over the cap?
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| Quote ="TKOAH"Doesn't have to be ready yet, there is no pressure remember.'"
No pressure doesnt mean you make suicidal decisions that could ruin a young player forever. |
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| Quote ="Big Dave T"No pressure doesnt mean you make suicidal decisions that could ruin a young player forever.'"
But it could make a kids career, if he is given a chance. |
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| Quote ="TKOAH"But it could make a kids career, if he is given a chance.'"
Have you seen our reserves?  |
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| Quote ="TKOAH"'"
So do you agree with Rule? |
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| Quote ="Rupert Pupkin"So do you agree with Rule?'"
Nope, what I disagree with is the "no pressure" statement. |
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| Quote ="TKOAH"Nope, what I disagree with is the "no pressure" statement.'"
The pressure is only coming from the fans, Agar and the board seem very happy together. |
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| Quote ="TKOAH"Nope, what I disagree with is the "no pressure" statement.'"
Surely it must take some pressure of a poorly performing team if they know there's no relegation? |
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Seems very sensible to me. Set a limit of 3 months minimum for an injured player to be out, then de register him from the cap and use his salary on a replacement for that period. It's up to the clubs to operate in a prudent financial manner and clubs like ours are penalised for being profitable businesses whilst other clubs can lose £100's of thousands a year yet still spend teh same as us.
Worst thing they ever did was scrap the 50% of income rule. Will probably be the reason some clubs ultimately fail
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| Quote ="Rupert Pupkin"The pressure is only coming from the fans, Agar and the board seem very happy together.'"
Because he is cheap and does what they tell him to. |
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| Quote ="Big Dave T"Surely it must take some pressure of a poorly performing team if they know there's no relegation?'"
But it also breeds lethargy, there is no need to improve if you know nothing will happen as a consequence of being shoite. |
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