For the top 4?

Based on what we've seen so far I think Wigan and Warrington will be the run away top 2, but I don't think Huddersfield are all that special, and St Helens are beatable aswell. So with Leeds the only team who look capable of overtaking us, do people think this side is good enough for a top 4 finish?

No not quite.

If we start to play well consistently and build our attack to be as good as our defence i think we could be top 4. Agree about Wigan and Warrington running away though. Leeds when they get bodies back could be 3rd with us 4th.

A few twist and turns yet I reckon for all contenders.

One thing we do need is some sort of settled backline though!

Not at the moment no, think 5th is the best we could hope for. Leeds, Saints, Huddersfield, Wire and Wigan are ahead of us at the moment.

Not without cover for the backs, no.

Recruited a great pack but relying too much on youth to cover the backs. We could do with Todd Byrne.

We're good enough but not yet consistent enough. Big plus for me so far is our obvious improvement in attitude - if that stays we have a chance

No wink necessary - we could. Agar was right all along...

I believe we can be.

Wigan and wire will be top 2 IMO

Leeds could and probably will come good, I just hope it starts in 2 weeks, saints, hudds and us to fill the rest of the top 6 I just dont know in what order.

Good old Todd Byrne! I would like to see a few players be given a position and stick with it for a while to let them settle into the role. At the moment players are chopping and changing all the time which must be difficult for continuity. I realise injuries will dictate this but we could commit certain players to one position.

I was looking at our fixtures and if just manage to win the games we are expected to win without causing any upsets we will be looking at about 34 points. Rovers made 4th with 35 last year, so with a more competetive league 34 could well get you there.

Wakefield (H)
Quins (MM)
Catalans (A)
Cas (A)
Salford (H)
Catalans (H)
Quins (A)
Crusaders (H)

Should all be bankers as long as we turn up with the right attitude. We've then got Rovers at home which we should win, we should also win at least one of Wakey or Bradford away (if not both) and then it would be a big bonus to beat one of the big boys (Saints, Leeds, Wigan) at home and Leeds or Hudds away.

It's certainly not out of the question imo. A win on Sunday would be a huge boost.

Think the tricky ones could be Catalans and Castelford away, both hot and cold teams.

5th or 6th I think especially if we lose our scrum half for an extended period.

A lot will depend on Long and how we play without him.

But yes i am still confident of a top 4

Agar got rid of him didnt he? Pretty sure Agar didnt recruit him.

I think Bradford may have a say as well !!

I'd like to say yes, but I think 5th or 6th is more realistic. If we can get a settled side for a few games, I'll be a little more confident. Whichever way it goes, I'd be very disappointed with less than 6th.

5th or 6th is probably about our level. Another pre-season of recruitment for 2011 should hopefully see us with a much stronger and more balanced squad which will be capable of challenging for the top 4 or even top 2 but, as it stands, I can't see us being consistently good enough for the top 4 this season.

Top 6 and the CC will more than do for me !!!

i think theres better and more then consistent teams then us this season wigan, wire, leeds, saints then us and hudds but think we"ll finish 5th or 6th which i think would still be a decent season after the last 2 this would put us in a good position to challenge the top 4 or 2 over the next 2-3 years.

Yep.

Don't know if he recruited him - but Agar thought incredibly highly of him. Forced to let him go through injury, but invited him to stay with the club as a non-player as he rated his influence and ethics so much. Which Todd did - certainly for a while.

That's what I think too. If our halves could stay fit then we have a chance but I reckon we will end up 5th/6th.

on what ive seen this season (our games and on sky) Wigan and Wire will be top 2, Leeds when they get bodies back will be third, but i dont think Huddersfield or Saints are anything special, 4th/5th for us would be acheivable, heres hoping!!

I think we are good enough to make the top 4. When you think we still have not had a settled halfback pairing this season with Long & Horne spending time out injured.
We also have a lot of new players this season and they are only 10 games in playing alongside each other. So for now i still think the top 4 is well within our grasp.