i think it's rediculous how players don't reach the referee after each tackle and get away with it.

But we'd only have, "FORWARD!" to shout at the ref if they didn't stay in line with him.

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Most of the time the ref will come back 11/12 instead of 10. This makes the players look offside even when they are not. It happened a lot in the Quins game as i was paying particular attention.

I don't like the constant shouting of fans to get teams on-side. I'm sure it's a form of rugby tourettes.

Consistancy is the main issue. As long as the ref is consistant I couldn't care less

Or booing for most of the game a la dobbins, saints and wires fans when something happens they don't like

Spot on. People constantly yelling gerrum on side, gets on my teets

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Very true. The question is why ? If they just came back the 10 required it would remove uncertainty for themselves/players and fans alike.

I think most of our rules are not applied rigorously because if they were it would be like hockey, basketball or American Football with constant interruptions by the ref. The ptb is not applied to the letter of the law and neither is the offside (particularly on your own try line when it is easiest to see. The refs have to apply common-sense and give some leeway to allow the game to flow. It's one of the reasons that referees are so open to abuse when actually they do a great job. When I got home after the Quins match and watched the game again the officals' performances weren't that bad at all (including the video referee). The only issue I have is the wrestle at the ptb but watching the World Club game I would say we got off pretty lightly according to this year's interpretation. That will probably get worse this season if the Aussies are going to play like that the Storm did against Leeds all season because the RFL will want us to be ready to compete on their terms in the 4 Nations.

With regard to the offside rule the ref going back 12 metres instead of 10 has no impact on the flow of the game it just leaves everyone guessing and frustrated. Also failure to keep a good 10 is detrimental to the game as a spectacle. On the goal line I have no problem with refs playing advantage then going back to ping offside players if a try isn't scored. If players were pinged more often causing multiple back to back sets on their own line they would soon adhere to the laws.

I think you'd be hard pushed to see any play the ball when the defensive players are on side.

In open field I would disagree I think there are many times when a defending team are onside. On the goal line maybe less so. My point in all of this is the random nature of the decisions made - sometimes it is called and sometimes it isn't. One incident will be penalised and another identical situation wont. It confuses players and fans alike. Tough job reffing for sure I just think sometimes by not applying the laws they make a rod for their own backs. Like the VR decision last week with Ganson for example.

RL is a game of constantly changing variables hence its almost impossible to play to the exact law all match, and its a well known fact that many refs walk a team back 12 yards to make sure there is the playing space in front of him as required!!

I like it when peeps shout 'they're a mile offside ref'..............technically we would easily score as they wouldn't even be in the ground...probably on Bricknell ave or 'essle Rerd depending on which way we were playing

Or...'Cmon ref play the game!!!"...would love to see Ganson strip off his ref shirt to reveal an FC shirt, grab the ball and leg it over the try line...scoring a flying try...a la fitz (Harlequins)......think I need to leave the Jack alone

The offsides dont bother me too much unless they are really blatant. If a player is making the effort to get back most refs will be lenient enough. Forward passes on the other hand are something that seems to be allowed(or not spotted) with more and more frequency. Yes sometimes they are borderline and again i am happy they are let go but the amount of really forward passes let go is getting ridiculous. I don't know why the linesmen are on the field half the time as the only time they tend to flag is for aggressive infringements.