As it's close season, and we now know what our squad is for 2009, I'm interested to know from my knowleageable co-fans, if you could give AGAR some advice on his 1st choice 17, and where to play OTHER players, what would it be (Stay on thread now !!!!!)
START WITH :-
For me : 1.Tansey, 2.Raynor, 3.Yeaman 4. Hall 5. Calderwood 6.Horne 7. Long. 8. Lauiki 9.Berrigan 10 O'Meeley 11.Manu 12 Fitzgibbon 13. Washbrook subs : Moa, Cussack, Tickle, Houghton
DUE TO INJURIES OR FORM : Prop Packing Order Dowes ??? who else
2nd Row : Radford, Whiting,
Loose : Whiting
Scrum Half : Berrigan, ?????
Wing / Centre : Briscoe, Turner
You know what......................... struggling with cover options........ need help........

My advice to Agar would be:
1) Delegate offence and gameplanning to Sean Long
2) Delegate defence to Fitzgibbon
3) Delegate motivational teamtalks to O'Meley
4) Delegate interchanges to Lasty

NO 5 drives and a kick
No "If you see it, play it"
I don't EVER want to hear a player say "we've not really looked at the opposition this week"

Oh, and..
DON'T flog Manu for 80 minutes
Play Lauaki wide
A ball-player at 13 please
Raking kicks for Calderwood to chase
A bonus for a player when they get pulled out by the referee - bring back the biff!

Tame Hame ! (But only a bit !)

Don't win that 'Fair Play' award again.

looking at your side which has no dowes, radford and briscoe in the 17, i dont think agar needs any advice from you.

Spend less time txting wolfie, and more time watching videos of your opponents and get a f00king game plan

Looking at next season`s pack we won`t !

agree with briscoe as a defo starting 17, radford is a possible but don't see why Dowes would be considered a definate

There will be plenty of selection headaches at the beginning of the season but with our luck with injuries we should be down to a bare 17 by round 5.

Briscoe is still young and i would agree with going for a bit more experience at the beginning of the season.
I would like to see Whiting given a chance at loose man, i think he would add another dimension to the team in that position.

Resign

for how many years?

1.Tansey, 2. Briscoe, 3.Yeaman, 4. Hall, 5. Calderwood, 6.Horne, 7. Long, 8. O'meley 9. Berrigan 10. Cusack 11. Tickle 12. Fitzgibbon 13.Washbrook

Subs: Houghton, Lauaki, Manu, Moa

Cover and possible switches to cover.

FB Whiting, Horne, J Briscoe
W Raynor, Lynne, Tuffour
C Turner, Whiting
SO Turner, Whiting
SH ? ( Only real cover is switching Horne or Berrigan into the role)
P Dowes, King, Radford
SR Radford, Burnett, Whiting, Kent
LF Whiting, Turner

Plenty of video analysis ( scrutinizing Offence and Defence, Key plays)
Mixing it up in attack, some early kicks for the speedsters to hunt down. NOt been affraid to throw the ball around, offloading at every opportunity. Run good lines strong and hard, hitting the ball at pace.
Some new whacky plays to confuse defences, from scrums etc.
Strong defence hungry menacing and ruthless.
Working for each other.#
Spelling the likes of Manu, Tickle, Moa etc properly.
Horne to kick close to the line only.

A lot of it is just obvious stuff but it's things we have failed to see for the last couple of years.

I know it's very very early to say but i feel a good season is on the cards.

Come On Hull!

Not far wrong.

Ignore everyone on this forum.

Play Washy at 13 and give him the vice captaincy and make Fitz the captain. Allow Long to have a huge say in our attacking attitude and plays but give him no responsibility in terms of captaincy or goal kicking.

Tansey
Briscoe
Yeaman
Hall
Calderwood
Horne
Long
Cusack
Berrigan
O'Meley
Radford
Fitzgibbon
Washbrook

Moa
Lauaki
Manu
Houghton

1. Tansey 2. Calderwood 3. Turner 4. Yeaman 5. Raynor 6. Horne 7. Long 8. O'meley 9. Berrigan 10. Dowes. 11. Fitzgibbon 12. Tickle 13. Washbrook. Subs: Luaki Moa Manu Houghton

O'meley club Captain and Fitz vice captain

Turner as our starting centre? Have you seen enough of him play to come to that conclusion?

Personally I think Craig Hall was excellent in the last half dozen games last season and deserves to start next season.

My main "advice" to Agar is to think long and hard about how he is going to use his pack to the most effect and that includes the impact from the bench. He needs to ask some really tough questions and come up with the right answers. For instance, is it really to the benefit of the team in terms of balance and impact to play Radford at 13? Or are you trying to come up with reasons just to get him in the team because of who he is? ATEOTD whilst loyalty etc is good the most important thing is how we perform and what we want to achieve as a club and if that means ruffling a few feathers then so be it.

Think thats nailed on if Hame gets good field time.

Agree with you there. Players need to be in on merit, Agar will no doubt start with what he feels is his starting 13 +4 but the crunch will come when a player is not performing well, will he have the balls to drop them.

At least I offer an opinion. I would not exclude the people in 'my' side for Briscoe, Radford or Dowes. Briscoe was a hard choice, but I would not drop Raynor or calderwood from the start to make a place for him, but give him a chance due to infuries or form. As for Radford and Dowes, not my 1st choice at the mo.

Can sympathise with the Whiting thought, but feel Washy is faster and more creative, so see Whiting as a 2nd row replacement.

Think Turner is seen as a future 6 or 13 and will offer cover there next season.

Agree with alot of this, particularly the radford at 13, I can't believe anyone thinks he should play at 13, and if we're struggling at 13 (due to washy injury), playing radford there is the last option. He's not creative, he's a hard work merchant - love to know Agar's logic there, but fear it's as you suggest - when there's not a place in 2nd row, or prop (where his future lies for me, if at all, if Tickle, manu, Fitz et-al perform).

Not much between them in terms of speed, and Whiting is the cleverer player IMO.

Washbrook's workrate and defence put him head and shoulders above whiting IMO.