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| hi James
This is a copy of the unanswered E-mail that I sent to KCFM this evening. I was hoping that you might answer it for me
Firstly I would like to commend whoever is behind our distinct shift in policy as regards our recruitment for 2010 because we are finally bringing exactly what we need in the way of quality players after a succession of very poor recruitment and retention decisions since 2005.
My question is regarding our quota. It seems to be a common opinion among fans that our quota is now full for 2010, firstly is this correct ?? Secondly, if that is the case, it would not only mean the end to our overseas signings for 2010 but it would mean that we are in the ridiculous position that even though Big Sam is getting better and better and showing the potential to become a very very good forward, he has absolutely no possible future at our club ?? Surely this cannot be correct, can it ???
Reply from JR
Sorry I didn't get to your e mail. In short the majority of the credit must go to richard for our recruitment.
Secondly no quota not full yet for 2010.
Thanks for taking time to write to me.
Regards
James
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| Quote ="thehullwhitestar"hi James
This is a copy of the unanswered E-mail that I sent to KCFM this evening. I was hoping that you might answer it for me
Firstly I would like to commend whoever is behind our distinct shift in policy as regards our recruitment for 2010 because we are finally bringing exactly what we need in the way of quality players after a succession of very poor recruitment and retention decisions since 2005.
My question is regarding our quota. It seems to be a common opinion among fans that our quota is now full for 2010, firstly is this correct ?? Secondly, if that is the case, it would not only mean the end to our overseas signings for 2010 but it would mean that we are in the ridiculous position that even though Big Sam is getting better and better and showing the potential to become a very very good forward, he has absolutely no possible future at our club ?? Surely this cannot be correct, can it ???
Reply from JR
Sorry I didn't get to your e mail. In short the majority of the credit must go to richard for our recruitment.
Secondly no quota not full yet for 2010.
Thanks for taking time to write to me.
Regards
James'"
Can you reply and tell him our understanding of who is on quota and get him to clarify?
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| Quote ="thehullwhitestar"
Reply from JR
Sorry I didn't get to your e mail. In short the majority of the credit must go to richard for our recruitment.
Secondly no quota not full yet for 2010.
Thanks for taking time to write to me.
Regards
James'"
Cusack
Manu
Lauaki
Fitzgibbon
Berrigan
O'Meley
I make that 6 overseas players.
plus possibilities such as
Moa
Cordoba.
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| Quote ="Gordon Gekko"Cusack
Manu
Lauaki
Fitzgibbon
Berrigan
O'Meley
I make that 6 overseas players.
plus possibilities such as
Moa
Cordoba.'"
Cordoba off quota, maybe Moa can come off and Manu can come off too?
Maybe he is saying the quota not full yet because O'Meley/Fitz dont have a visa yet?
Maybe Berro is going?
Would be nice to have further clarity would it.
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| At the risk of inciting the "you only post negative comment" brigade...
What a completely unprofessional reply, he should have explained why the quota is not full, who is on/off etc.
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| Quote ="Big Dave T"Cordoba off quota, maybe Moa can come off and Manu can come off too?
Maybe he is saying the quota not full yet because O'Meley/Fitz dont have a visa yet?
Maybe Berro is going?
Would be nice to have further clarity would it.
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Cordoba counts on the quota as a Non Federation Trained player.
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Even though he's taken the time to reply answering the questions asked people still aren't happy.
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| If true, good news. But with such a brief reply there's no reasoning to support it to give me confidence. And we have to remember that this is the guy who thought Thackray was fine to play.
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| Quote ="Big Dave T"Can you reply and tell him our understanding of who is on quota and get him to clarify?'"
I have just done exactly that Dave !!
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| Quote ="clubfoot fc"icon_lol.gif
Even though he's taken the time to reply answering the questions asked people still aren't happy.'"
No, he really should have the time to go into the rather complicated quota rules this morning.
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| Quote ="Robbo4"No, he really should have the time to go into the rather complicated quota rules this morning.'"
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| Why can i see another case of Fc breaking the rules without realising.
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| Quote ="Robbo4"No, he really should have the time to go into the rather complicated quota rules this morning.'"
He should have replied later, with a more detailed explanation.
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| It is very good of him to reply to my E-mail so quickly (within an hour or two) but his reply is obviously lacking any detail whatsoever, therefore I have replied with this.....
Thanks for your prompt reply James but would it be possible to give a little more detail please ??
The way that most fans are translating the very confusing quota rules is as follows...
Peter Cusack Quota
Shaun Berrigan Quota
Mark O'Meley Quota
Craig Fitzgibbon Quota
Hame Lauaki Quota/non fed
Willie Manu Quota/non fed ( with the possbility of exemption from Nov 2010)
As we understand it, 2010 allows 6 overseas players, 5 of which can be Aussies/Kiwis, therefore it would appear to most fans that, unless there is an exemption given to Willie Manu or one of our quota players is allowed to leave, our quota is full and, therefore, we have no spare quota place in which to keep big Sam for 2010, whether Richard wants to or not. This would be very disappointing to many fans as he is quickly becoming, not only a very exciting forward to watch, but also a fans favourite.
Any clarification of our current situation would be greatly appreciated.
thanks in advance
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| Quote ="thehullwhitestar"It is very good of him to reply to my E-mail so quickly (within an hour or two) but his reply is obviously lacking any detail whatsoever, therefore I have replied with this.....
Thanks for your prompt reply James but would it be possible to give a little more detail please ??
The way that most fans are translating the very confusing quota rules is as follows...
Peter Cusack Quota
Shaun Berrigan Quota
Mark O'Meley Quota
Craig Fitzgibbon Quota
Hame Lauaki Quota/non fed
Willie Manu Quota/non fed ( with the possbility of exemption from Nov 2010)
As we understand it, 2010 allows 6 overseas players, 5 of which can be Aussies/Kiwis, therefore it would appear to most fans that, unless there is an exemption given to Willie Manu or one of our quota players is allowed to leave, our quota is full and, therefore, we have no spare quota place in which to keep big Sam for 2010, whether Richard wants to or not. This would be very disappointing to many fans as he is quickly becoming, not only a very exciting forward to watch, but also a fans favourite.
Any clarification of our current situation would be greatly appreciated.
thanks in advance'"
Well put, one ofthe more polite emails he will have received of late.
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| If he doesn't answer in detail, who's going to ring the new directors' hotline?
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| Quote ="Standee"He should have replied later, with a more detailed explanation.'"
He might have 30 emails from fans to get through this morning. I'd rather he was actually running the "business" that is Hull FC then answering inane questions from fans. Not that I'm saying this isn't a valid question. Perhaps he thought a simple assurance that we do indeed have a quota space available for next season was response enough? Its not like the original email asked for any clarification on the rules etc.
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| Quote ="FC Callum"Cordoba counts on the quota as a Non Federation Trained player.'"
But he doesnt count on the oz quota was my point. Confusing when they split a quota and have varying amounts of criteria i guess.
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| Quote ="Robbo4"He might have 30 emails from fans to get through this morning. I'd rather he was actually running the "business" that is Hull FC then answering inane questions from fans. Not that I'm saying this isn't a valid question. Perhaps he thought a simple assurance that we do indeed have a quota space available for next season was response enough? Its not like the original email asked for any clarification on the rules etc.'"
As an ex-marketing director i find his approach a little odd sometimes. It was clear that a more thorough reply was needed to avoid setting hares running but he has failed to grasp again the bigger impact of not saying something truthfl to the fans. Maybe he cant but it would be nice if he said that he cant give further details as one of our current players is leaving and doesnt want to announce it yet or something of that accord.
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| Quote ="Robbo4"He might have 30 emails from fans to get through this morning. I'd rather he was actually running the "business" that is Hull FC then answering inane questions from fans. Not that I'm saying this isn't a valid question. Perhaps he thought a simple assurance that we do indeed have a quota space available for next season was response enough? Its not like the original email asked for any clarification on the rules etc.'"
No I didn't ask for an indepth explanation of quota rules etc. and nor would I because, as you say, he has more important things to be doing. However, I did expect a little detail as to who is on/off quota and perhaps a brief indication as to how we may have a quota spot available.
We'll see.....
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| Quote ="Robbo4"He might have 30 emails from fans to get through this morning. I'd rather he was actually running the "business" that is Hull FC then answering inane questions from fans. Not that I'm saying this isn't a valid question. Perhaps he thought a simple assurance that we do indeed have a quota space available for next season was response enough? Its not like the original email asked for any clarification on the rules etc.'"
He replied to me at 9pm last night !!!
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| Quote ="Big Dave T"As an ex-marketing director i find his approach a little odd sometimes. It was clear that a more thorough reply was needed to avoid setting hares running but he has failed to grasp again the bigger impact of not saying something truthfl to the fans. Maybe he cant but it would be nice if he said that he cant give further details as one of our current players is leaving and doesnt want to announce it yet or something of that accord.'"
It is clear, on many occasions, that he doesn't have the experience for the role he has been given, if you see him at functions it is also clear he can't hold his drink, nor his mouth.
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| Could Cusack (and other players in the same position), be coming off quota when they become fed-trained? I thought this originally, but then changed my mind after reading posts on here. I can't see any other way that Hull can be under though.
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| Quote ="Standee"It is clear, on many occasions, that he doesn't have the experience for the role he has been given, if you see him at functions it is also clear he can't hold his drink, nor his mouth.'"
Ive only ever seen him drink orange juice tbf at functions.
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| I personally wouldn't knock him for his reply. I think that it was very good of him to reply so promptly. Yes, it was lacking a little detail which he could have voluntarily added to his reply but I'm sure that he will do that when he replies to my second E-mail.
I think it says a lot about him to be sat at home, in the office or wherever he was, answering E-mails from fans at 9 o'clock in the evening.
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