in our side according to mr agar.
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We have just played our 14 game and now he says we have a problem in our side.

Is McRae's cancer still being treated?

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When the going gets tough, we collapse.

No mental strength and no desire to defend our line, some of it is down to the players and some of it is down to the coach.

He also said Thorman "Things weren't going his way," he said. "He had a below-par game last week and he didn't look great in the first half."

I'd hate to see what comes below that.

No winners

Spot on mate. Add "no passion" and it's a full house

Passion/Desire

Passion for the club

TBH i thought 1st half Thorman apart the effort was there but his inability to tackle cost us 3 trys which drained the confidence of other players around him

He cost us the game, it's that simple. The team worked hard and he destroyed time and time again.

I just dont get it. he sits there spouting this rubbish about simple stuff souch as one on ones, and the players just arnt doing it and its the same week in week out.

SO WHY ISNT HE DOING ANYTHING ABOUT IT!!!!

he is supposed to be the head coach he is supposed to tell the players what he wants them to do. He's not supposed to just sit there and accept that as an excuse every week.

The really worrying thing is that reads like Agar thinks this is a temporary dip in form from Thorman.

I now fully expect Thorman to play next week, which will be beyond awful.

Get them training at the Boulevard, that should toughen them up!!

I think i gained a little bit of respect for Agar after listening to that interview.

Exactly how I read it

Sharp knew how poor Thorman was whilst at Huddersfield, why then did he recommend him to Agar?

Thorman would struggle to get into some Championship sides.

Never seen a worse player in such a pivotal position. And he's getting worse.

Watching the match yesterday as someone pointed out on twitter, it did seem that Thorman was being isolated from the play somewhat as the 1st half progressed.

As I have seen him, he has always had "an issue" or two and last nights display underlines what we all think. Listening to Agar's interview on KCFM I think he went as far as he could without COMPLETELY undermining the [uwhole[/u squad.

There was most definitely a lack of passion, creativity and leadership which manifest itself in what can only be described as a "poor".

Another common phrase used last night @ The Lincoln Arms in Bev was "our season is over".

Well, it CAN get worse but at some point, it's gotta turn round, surely......

If the try he let Webb score wasn't bad enough the chip over the top and shocking attempt at tackling for Abletts right on half time really was the killer for the rest of the team after the effort to get back in the game just before halftime, we never recovered from those mistakes.

He missed Donald as well on the Leeds line after a good attack and kick from us and that lead to another try. It's not just the miss either , it's the fact that he just has no intention of tackling , it's just a token hand on the shoulder before being brushed off.

How the hell can he sit in the post match video session and justify those "tackles" to his team mates ?

It killed us and the game.

It's the little things that annoy me, Leeds constantly got quick ptb's as there players fought to get off the floor. Our players seem to enjoy the rest on the floor and make no effort to get up. Leeds were not much more creative than us but due the speed of the ptb they constantly got our defence on the back foot and made easy yards.

It really needs addressing, it should be drummed into players at training aswell as attacking angled runs.

WTF do RA and JS do in training?

I don't think he'll dare

Spot on again mate