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| Surely there must be a good enough youngster playing in the lower divisons who could possibly be our next number 7 .
Look at Brough no one had heard of him before moving to Hull Fc
It is just another thought but we must start producing our own players by that I mean WE as in the UK
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| black - fax
groom - eagles
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| Quote ="goldyfc08"black - fax
groom - eagles'"
As English as you can get
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| It is just another thought but we must start producing our own players by that I mean WE as in the UK
Like they do in the NRL, maybe in twenty years from now we could be world champs........
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| Might come to that, looking in the lower leagues. No Superstar worth his salt would sign for you lot at present, money doesnt always talk you know.
Got to be some kind of cohesive plan, of which your club is sadly devoid of.
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| Quote ="blakeysrobin"Might come to that, looking in the lower leagues. No Superstar worth his salt would sign for you lot at present, money doesnt always talk you know.
Got to be some kind of cohesive plan, of which your club is sadly devoid of.'" We'll see.
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| Quote ="east hull FC fan"We'll see.'"
Id try and sign the scrum half from Leeds reserves who played against us pre season for rest of the season
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| Quote ="east hull FC fan"We'll see.'"
Yep.
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| Quote ="The Brother"Id try and sign the scrum half from Leeds reserves who played against us pre season for rest of the season'" we need a bit of pillow talk for that
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| Quote ="blakeysrobin"Might come to that, looking in the lower leagues. No Superstar worth his salt would sign for you lot at present, money doesnt always talk you know.
Got to be some kind of cohesive plan, of which your club is sadly devoid of.'"
Bless you child.
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| There are plenty but the whole system prevents them from ever getting a shot at SL.
The quicker all Aussies are fecked off back and each club can have just one overseas player, no fed trained crap, just one player who has not got a British passport the better.
Danny Houghton, Dominic Maloney, Tommy Lee, Washy, Tom Briscoe, Mike Burnett, are they really a million miles away from Berrigan, Sing, Cussack, Manu etc??
Yeah, I know they are not world beaters but if each club was forced to forge links with lower league sides and keep bringing through their own talent it would be a level field and each club would have to work harder to coach kids, not just bring in super stars!!
Hull KR, Welham, Colburn, Wheeldon, Murrell, Cockayne, Briscoe, Spaven, I'Anson, Fox, Netherton all English and would hardly disgrace themselves if you took the Overseas players out of most sides in SL.
Start with that and all of a sudden coaches will look 'South' for talent
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| Quote ="Bandito"There are plenty but the whole system prevents them from ever getting a shot at SL.
The quicker all Aussies are fecked off back and each club can have just one overseas player, no fed trained crap, just one player who has not got a British passport the better.
Danny Houghton, Dominic Maloney, Tommy Lee, Washy, Tom Briscoe, Mike Burnett, are they really a million miles away from Berrigan, Sing, Cussack, Manu etc??
Yeah, I know they are not world beaters but if each club was forced to forge links with lower league sides and keep bringing through their own talent it would be a level field and each club would have to work harder to coach kids, not just bring in super stars!!
Hull KR, Welham, Colburn, Wheeldon, Murrell, Cockayne, Briscoe, Spaven, I'Anson, Fox, Netherton all English and would hardly disgrace themselves if you took the Overseas players out of most sides in SL.
Start with that and all of a sudden coaches will look 'South' for talent'"
Fair point that IMO. I had a "send the boogers back" conversation with my mate the other week. Not quite down to one overseas, but 3 would be good IMO and develop our British game
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| Quote ="hull smallears"Fair point that IMO. I had a "send the boogers back" conversation with my mate the other week. Not quite down to one overseas, but 3 would be good IMO and develop our British game'"
What a load of bollox, if Crocker had been accepted we wouldn't even have this thread. As for developing the British game, that starts with British coaches, name me one worth his contract. Brits are too negative.
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| The British games is never gonna succeed. So may aswell sign more Aussies, help them bring there game on more.
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| Quote ="A unknown superstar"The British games is never gonna succeed. So may aswell sign more Aussies, help them bring there game on more.
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Herein lies the RFL masterplan.
Keep relaxing the overseas players rules and eventually they'll all qualify for GB/England in any case. Then the aussie exiles can then beat the aussies at International level and GB will be a world force again
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| Im all for recruiting talent from the lower leagues but they need to join existing quality not be relied upon to take us up the league.
Apart from that there'd be cries of 'we've gone cheap again'.
We need to buy a class Centre, Scrum Half and Prop and let players develop behind them. Class breeds class!
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| Quote ="KNOCK OFF NIGEL"Im all for recruiting talent from the lower leagues but they need to join existing quality not be relied upon to take us up the league.
Apart from that there'd be cries of 'we've gone cheap again'.
We need to buy a class Centre, Scrum Half and Prop and let players develop behind them. Class costs cash!'"
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| Quote ="Gordon Gekko"Edited for accuracy.'"
It was accurate enough in the first place but thanks anyhow.
We should have the cash to buy class in at least two positions. One must be a 7 and develop the young players under them.
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| Quote ="Andrea FC"we need a bit of pillow talk for that
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You mean:
Kath :'gary, its either sex or the young scrum half in your reserves'
Gary : 'please, take him and have Burrows as well'
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| I think any of these would start at 7 for us currently...
Huddersfield/Whitehaven = McNally
Sheffield = Groom
Halifax = Black
Gateshead = Branighan
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| Quote ="Raggytash"I think any of these would start at 7 for us currently...
Huddersfield/Whitehaven = McNally
Sheffield = Groom
Halifax = Black
Gateshead = Branighan'"
Albert Tatlock would get a start for you lot at the moment
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| The argument about overseas/home-grown is spurious - the REAL debate is part-time/full-time
Below the SL players have a career outside of rugby. It takes a very brave player to throw that away and go full time on the off-chance that they are successful in SL.
I understand that SL "rules" are that players must be full time, so that surely prevents a lot of lads from lower divisions being prepared to take a chance at higher level. Who is going to jack their job in to get a month's trial with a SL club after which you might be binned anyway ?
I think that's a bigger problem than the imports.
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| Quote ="rover49"Albert Tatlock would get a start for you lot at the moment'"
He's happy at Siddal, said he doesn't want to leave.
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| Quote ="TrevLovesJanice"The argument about overseas/home-grown is spurious - the REAL debate is part-time/full-time
Below the SL players have a career outside of rugby. It takes a very brave player to throw that away and go full time on the off-chance that they are successful in SL.
I understand that SL "rules" are that players must be full time, so that surely prevents a lot of lads from lower divisions being prepared to take a chance at higher level. Who is going to jack their job in to get a month's trial with a SL club after which you might be binned anyway ?
I think that's a bigger problem than the imports.'"
ie. Craig Calvert
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| Quote ="FC Callum"ie. Craig Calvert'"
has a well paid job at sellafield, isn't that why he never chose to step up?
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