Great in first five matches. None existant in last two. Not sure why but it's a major factor in the two defeats. We're no longer setting our stall out in defence and the lack of urgency and enthusiasm in this area is filtering through to all our play.

Fitness?

cos we look foooked

Because we have 2 props playing 60 minutes + and 2 2nd rowers playing the full 80

attacking speed wasn't great either.

Shouldnt we be "hitting the straps" at this point of the season.

In my opinion, line speed wasn't the problem, the defensive line didn't have a chance when the square markers don't work. It dosn't matter what anyone does if you give Randall or any other player for that matter, 4 or 5 yards evrytime.

IMO Quins proved it does work. They were miles quicker off the line than us and ultimately that's what prevented us from going forward in the second half. Marker defence was slack too I would agree. Part and parcel of the same problem - lack of enthusiasm.

Bingo!

It's blatantly obvious that the usual suspects doing more minutes look knackered which results in lesser performances. It seems our coaching staff don't agree with this assessment however.

In all the games Ive seen of Hull this season , We've started dominantly in the forwards . The worrying thing is , In the last two games is how easily we've let that dominance slip .

Their markers worked like troopers, though. Your right it is part of the same problem, but i think if the markers worked then the rest would. I think some old videos of swian should show them how to do it.

We just looked tired and lazy all across the pitch today

We did say we looked bigger from game 1, maybe we've sacrificed a little bit of fitness for bulk, in which case someone best tell Agar to use his subs better!

Agree.

We have a winner!!

wasnt thorman the one tellking us to move forward quicker

Yeah and in that set we kept them pinned back in there forty! unfortunately they then kicked a 40-20 which really seemed to take it out of us.

It wasn't just that 40/20.....We were totally out-enthused the whole game. Even when we scored it looked like we wouldn't. We were lucky (apart from the penalty......that should've been run IMO) to have gote ant points the way we trudged around the pitch.
Anyone that knows me knows that i'm usually the 'eternal optimist' when it comes to do with anything FC, I expect a win everytime, I never knock the lads......BUT......We were playing like a team of substitutes and reserves last night. I'm almost glad to be skint.....I'd have hated to have gone all that way for that performance

Key point especially 2nd half. We had a crap first possession set in the 2nd half when Houghton made an of the last tackle and from there there was nothing to suggest we could ever win the game in terms of body language or enthusiasm.