we have ticks, r.horne, thornam and craig hall, surely 1 of them should knuckle down in training and at least practice them... thoughts ???

When did he sign??

Don't be rude... you know he means big nose

He's obviously been listening to DDD too much.

What are you like Basil!!!

We never look comfortable taking the one pointers and look disorganised and out of position to make the chances easier for ourselves

Did'nt sherwin miss his first attempt.
Swings and round abouts.

sorry formann

yeah he missed his first not by much though, it had the legs easy... fair play to him, he wanted another pop at it and it payed off

Where as Horney put one wide from 10 metres in frontof the posts!

sounds about right, never mind... guess ticks left his kicking boots at home tonight





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Shouldnt have needed the 1 point anyway.

True, but more and more games will go to the wire. After Thorman's sad attempts last week and Horney kicking wide in a perfect position this has to be an area we can rely on if necessary.

Cas's first attempt from the half way line looked more likely to go over than our last 3 goes all of which have in front of the sticks.

This cost us tonight - a draw would've made us top if Horne had scored - and will cost us again.

So, yes, I agree with legohead.

Why did drop goals cost us tonight and Tickles missed kicks not, or Berrigans poor decision, or Yeaman not passing etc etc.

Its just one of those games to learn from and move on.

Sherwins first effort missed by fully 5 yards, But he was pressured and was from 50 metres out, His second the ball to him was poor, Picked it up off his laces and just got it away to land it, If you get within 20 yards of the posts and have a reasonably easy chance of getting the ball away, You shouldnt be missing, Simple as

And we shouldnt have made the errors all of the game to need 1 point to beat you. Tickle shouldnt have missed the 3 kicks etc. the Drop goal conversation should be irrelevant.

Because drop-goals are a last gasp measure at the end of a game which is level - therefore a concerted strategy should be in place.

I could accept it if the majority of our attempts went over, or came close, but very few go anywhere near.

You wouldn't expect us not to practice tackling, plays, moves or Tickle his goal kicks, so surely we should be tight in this area that wins, loses or draws games in the final minutes.

(Not blaming Horney, btw, but just feel this an element of our game that is neglected in coaching)

How do you know we dont practice it?

From memory i seem to think that R Horne has a pretty good success rate normally.

tickle was practicing his goal kicks pre game and still missed 3 crucial kicks, how are drop goals any different?

Tickle gets most of his goals - tonight was an anomaly - so as we all know this is given great emphasis and practice, rightly so. But I think we are generally pants at DGs. Since Cooke left, and with Horne out most of last season, we have seen very few.

So I conclude it's something that is not focussed on - I know coaches allegedly hate drops - so I'm guessing it doesn't get much practice.

And it should, IMO.

Correct. We've been pretty useless at this over the last few years. Apart from Cooke at Saints.

Richard Horne has kicked a few that i remember. And as ive said, why should we need to practice drop goals, i'd rather they practices tackling after tonights performance and maybe even teach them to meet the man stood next to them cos they passed the ball tonight like they didnt even know each other.

While it's not ideal if our attack, defence, kicking et al hasn't won us the match comfortably with a few minutes to go, the reality is - perfectly illustrated tonight - that the best laid plans don't always come off and we find ourselves in a neck and neck situation.

It is inevitable that some matches will be level with a couple of minutes to go despite our best (or otherwise

) efforts, and the skill should be there to give us chance to win or draw in these situations.

Why on earth shouldn't this be given practice time?

Stand me in front of the posts at training and i'll drop kick a goal, i could do it now with my eyes closed. Richard Horne will do it 100% of the time in training if he had to. He missed one tonight, i would be my house that out of all of his other attempts over the last ten years he has only ever missed a couple. Just an unlucky night.

We should have shipped the ball to our right anyway as we had 5 on 2 making the drop goal irrelevant.

But Hull don't, though, on the pitch. Or very rarely. That's the problem. Guess we'll just have to disagree on this one.

Bring back Bob Gaitley to give them some pointers on Dg's, he nailed more than his fair share in his career.