I just scoured the messages from last night and today but couldnt see an obvious one. What did everyone make of Tommy Lee's performance. To me it looked the most confident I have seen him play in ages. Looked like a weight of his shoulders and was prepared to try anything and actually really wanted the ball.
I dont claim to be the most knowledgeable about rugby but when he came on how did we shift things around with Horne and Thorman? Did Lee play 13ish?

apart from knocking on and allowing catalans to score at the end, i thought tommy did very well, looks like agar has found the right position for him in the forwards

To be totally honest with you all, I am not Tommy's biggest fan at all and dread it when I see him in our starting 17. But he suprised me a little last night and played okay. Shame he let Catalans in for their 2nd try but apart from that looked ok. Seems to have bulked up a little and was not affraid to go in for tackles when needed to.

It did seem to suit him though to play in the forwards!! Let's hope he buckles down and shows us all what he is capable of.

Thats a very good description of how i saw it too, put some nice passes in and wasnt afraid to have a run at the line

I thought Lee did well last night, he got his head down and took the ball in well. However I still wouldnt like to see him in our 17 at the expense of Washbrook/Hall/Houghton though.

I think thats the point though - he looks like he is more confident trying to win a place than loosing one..

Loose man seems to be his position, looked confident as other posters have said, a big weight off his shoulders. Didnt seem to be under pressure knowing the team had 2 halfbacks plus berro/houghton around him so he didnt have to guide the team around the park.

During his first spell I thought he was our best player. His sharpness, speed and accuracy of passing allowed the team to work much wider without being closed down by what can be a pretty quick line and he controlled things well. Probably the most vocal player as well, with him standing behind the plays he wasn't involved and directing the team around. He carried the ball fairly strongly as well and, as ever, his defence was spot on.

Is it just me or did we not score a try when he was on the field?

I'm not sure if it was [ijust[/i you, but we got at least one try whilst he was on (Hall's) and possibly two (he came on very close to the time Horne scored, but I'm not sure if it was just before or just after).

Ahh thanks for the info. Didn't score the first time he was on though yes?

Hall's try came during Lee's first spell, not long after he came on IIRC.

I'm not sure it did..

what does it matter if he was on the field or not??

It means he makes a negative impact to our team

No it doesn't

I'm not a huge fan of Lee, but that's just stupid talk.

With the squad we now have...he shouldnt be near the team.

If we are scoring when a player is off the field, and not when he's on, the player is making a negative impact is he not?

In respect to 1 game?

The player is having a negative impact in that game, yes?

didn't we only have 17 available players?

tony, byrne, raynor, whiting, washbrook, king all injured

crocker, moa, lauaki not here

maloney and hodgson not ready.

So when we bring on a defensive player, we dont score but he saves a try another player wouldnt have stopped he had a negative impact??

Also Tommy Lee played a cracking ball out to Graham Horne which was dropped - it was a decent ball we could could have scored from. Hardly his fault what happens after he passes the ball..

You need to brush up on your critical thinking skills.

You've made a causal link where there is no actual evidence to suggest one exists. You might as well have said that if the wind was blowing when we scored but not when we didn't then the lack of wind had a detrimental effect on the team. Or picked any other random factor for that matter.