The board won't though. they won't spend the money. We will get a head coach but not a clean sweep. Even then we will get a coach on the cheap.

I think Agar should do the decent thing and resign. Like others have said, the board have publicly placed too much faith in him to sack him. A new coach would re-energise things.

The players need to take their share of the blame for last night as I think they were guilty of thinking that the win would just come, that Wakefield would eventually just give up. That said however, some of our play just beggars belief.

Lyne takes the ball up on the first tackle, then Sharp the second. On the third tackle we go wide to Sharp's wing when he's making his way back from the middle.

Why is Radders sometimes the second receiver? He's not James Graham and as for him having to put in attacking kicks



When we come left, all the players seem to gravitate towards the corner flag. The ball comes left and we end up with 3 players with 5 yards to work in. No dummy runners going through the line.

On two or three occasions we had a overlap on the left hand side but the cut out pass to the winger forced Lyne either to stop or to have to jump to catch it and the cover had slid across. I'm sorry to mention his name but that's the pass that we haven't been able to make since Cookie left.

Houghton breaks the line on a scoot and there isn't anyone within 15 yards of him; at one play the ball he was forced to scoot because there was no-one to pass to, we just weren't ready.

Lauaki is taken off 2 mins before half time. Washy seems to be part of our prop rotation.

It's the first time in a very long time I really wanted to leave a game before the end. Actually saying that, I wanted to leave before the start. The idiot on the mike is ruining a poor night out. Old Faithful is a song for me that is sung spontaneously by the crowd, either to lift the team or when things are going well(!). By making it a sing-a-long at the start demeans it to me.

I cannot see where our next win is going to come from, although I think we might get a point at the derby. The state both clubs are in it will be 0-0

I don't know if getting that off my chest helps or not......

Hey ! Where am I on that list !!

I've complained as much as anyone !!



I never wanted him as our coach and have always hoped that I would be proven wrong but this guy is, and always has been, totally out of his depth. Probably a "nice bloke" who works hard and that's about it.

Those of us who've been complaining from day one of this clown's tenure have just been lambasted as pessimists or fans that just like to complain but, as someone said on RH last night, a team full of lions is no good if you have a sheep in charge of them.

I'll say it again, what I've constantly been saying for three seasons now...........GO NOW AGAR !! YOU ARE A CLOWN !!!

It sums up many peoples thoughts tbh, I can't see Agar resigning but I guess if the pressure got too much he might. It depends on how the players perform in the next few weeks.

I haven't heard GREENSLEEVES for a while, wonder why?

This is what's so infuriating. Everything is in place for us to become serious challengers in a short space of time. The only thing that's missing is a decent coach and a couple of top signings. Why can't the board see it?

He won't resign and our BOD won't sack him either. He is more likely to be given an extension.

JR has said on many occasions that he is the man for the job. Many of us (maybe all of us now) completely and utterly disagree with his opinion but he will not back down and we are stuck with our clown of a coach.

If he were to resign, he must know that he would be struggling to attract even a small/medium sized club, never mind a club the size of ours. He would find himself in charge of a C1 club on less than half the salary and although he is clearly a rubbish coach, he is probably not stupid.

Apologies, but my fingers were getting sore with furious typing by that point and your user name is a good deal longer than the others



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I'm just amazed it took so many people so long to finally figure out what was patently obvious from a long time ago.
Agar's a decent guy as you say and I'm certain he works extremely hard for the club, but he is simply out of his depth at this level. It's time for change before any further damage is done.

I honestly think that enough damage is already done. Anger among the fans is bad enough but the general feeling is more of apathy than anything else and that is far worse.

The only reason for attending games now seems to be "because I have a pass" or "because that's what I've always done". I honestly can't remember those days when the game was the highlight of the week that everyone looked forward to.

I've often thought about this, I only had to watch Agar speak once to know he was in no way a leader or a winner and my opinion has never wavered.

I think firstly every team has a section of fans that are, for want of a better term, 'happy clappers'. They see any criticism of any part of the club as disloyal, and even if Louie Spence was appointed head coach they would insist that he should be given time to prove himself etc. Beyond those though, I've come to the opinion that it's basicallly a form of denial. Agar is the manager and there's nothing you can really do about it so why not try and convince yourself that he's the right man for the job? Obviously this state of mind has been helped a great deal by the Rule's spin and PR machine, who have repeatedly made excuses for Agar's poor performance and backed him to the hilt... disagreeing with what the board say means accepting that they might not have the fans' best interests at heart, and that's a pretty difficult step for a lot of people.

Since I joined this forum I've come across as one of the most negative posters, but if we ever had a coach we could believe in people would see that I'm generally not like that. I was sad to see Kear go and thought it was the wrong move to sack Sharp, I'm just not in the business of trying to dupe myself.

Absolute genius, I may have to use that.

can a quality head coach expect to get?

To late now but he could of applied for the Barrow job.

as much as i think we need a new coach,we also need players who know how to pass a ball properly.ball control by players is also pathetic.no wonder we are one of the worst attacking sides in the league.even in the lead up to the one try we scored last night,someone throw a pass that was going nowhere.

Horne's passing last night was nothing short of shocking.

Same thing it all boils down to coaching.

the basic skills catch and pass of our team is awfull

The handling side of our game has been poor for some time and the error count for the last 3 seasons has increased year on year.

I see the level of nauseating self-congratulation has risen this morning.



A few folk will be sporting shoulder injuries from patting themselves on the back.

forget coaching,if you dont know how to pass a rugby ball properly at this level,i suggest you take up cricket

Very surprised at you with that comment Kosh......I could have expected it from PaulM but not you.

I don't see the point in saying "I told you so" over and over again, or sneering at others who had a different POV. And I say that as someone who never wanted Agar appointed in the first place. The situation is depressing enough without sniping at fellow fans.

Whilst I agree with you I do think that some posters have had to put up with a fair amount of criticism and abuse for thier opinions on Agar so I can understand some getting a little bit of "payback"

I'm not sure that's true. I largely share those opinions of Agar and I haven't had any criticism directed at me. What they [ihave[/i been criticised for is the way those opinions have been expressed or some of the dafter suggestions/comments made.

You mean 'sniping' like the other day when you called me the 'Anti-Icecreamman' for having the temerity to say if Agar stayed in charge we won't finish above Cas this year?

If Agar had been a success the amount of humble pie the likes of myself and other staunch anti-Agar posters would have had to consume would have been enormous and rightfully so. All I've seen on this thread is a few people expressing regret that it took so many so long to see what was so blindingly obvious, a perfectly warranted and in no way self-congratulatory comment.