So signings and contract negotiations are nothing to do with 'the playing side of the club'? I think it's you who needs to have a re-read!

Contracts and negotiations are administration/club management, and yes he will have input, influence I'm not sure he has/had. The 'playing side' of things is coaching/coaching staff/players etc.
Your inference was that JR had influence in the playing side. Absolutely not.

Ok pal, just leave it to CS to reply then. I'm sure he'll grasp what I meant even if you can't manage it.

I managed to grasp what you actually said.........Who am I, The Great Swami ? to try and understand what you 'MEANT' to say.
Sounds very 'girly' to say yeah but yeah but what I meant was

You're just making yourself look ridiculous now. If you don't believe that signings and contract renewals are anything to do with the playing side of the club then I'm not going to waste my time trying to persuade you.

Not in the way that was being discussed they aren't. Rule was involved in the mechanics but not in the decisions. Which was the point of the discussion.

Really?


Thanks for trying to tell me what I was discussing though.

In a bad mood this morning?



Your quote appears to prove my point rather than yours. Was that what you intended?

You don't know he wasn't involved in decisions any more than people know he was.

It's a pointless discussion similar to the old "well who would you have signed instead" one.

the only true test is whether he is still here in 6 months time. If he is then I'd hazard a guess that he's pretty good at what pearson wants him to do

It's evening where I am



I don't see how those quotes prove your point? People were implying that Devlin had got the job because he was a mate of Rules. I said I didn't believe JR had any influence over the playing side of the club anymore. To me recruitment of staff and players is a big part of the playing side of the club, if you and 'me n our kid' don't agree with that then I find it baffling, but each to their own!

Think this is where the cross-purposes is coming from. Neither I nor (I think) carl_spackler counts the negotiation of contracts as having 'influence' over recruitment and hence the playing side of the club. Rule likely won't have made any decisions regarding who to offer contracts to or even the best terms and conditions to offer.

www.rlcm.com.au/employment/posit ... gby-league Here is the job description Harlequins have issued in their bid to recruit Strength and Conditioning expertise

www.rlcm.com.au/employment/posit ... gby-league Here is the job description Harlequins have issued in their bid to recruit Strength and Conditioning expertise

I wonder how many people actually fit the bill to apply for those requirements. I can think of one from the other side of the city who was formerley employed by us and since he left I think our conditioning of the team has plummetted.

He was headhunted as top class in his field, and maybe we should do the same and headhunt him back.

Looking for job description for our vacant post but not having tooo much luck.

He wasn't, and never has been, top class in his field (assuming you mean Mr "run up and down Branny Dale" Mallinson?)

Thought they'd already offered you job Billy.

We always faded in the playoffs, like the Dobbins do now. That Billy Mallinson for you

There are limited opportunities for head coaches of strength and conditioning around the rugby league world. He has held these positions at Hull and Rovers for the last umpteen years. Maybe he keeps his position because he knows what he is talking about and can put theory into practice. Maybe his record of developing the strength and conditioning of professional players keeps him in the job and maybe he takes them running up Brantingham now n then. He's succcessful at what he does. Otherwise he'd be out of work in this very specific area of employment.

What is your evidence why he isn't top class in his job? cos they run up and down hills? please let me know as this year i study strength and conditioning at University to complete my sports and fitness degree. I'd much rather pay you to lecture me than highly qualified professional experts of sports science and fitness NOT !!!!

If you knew anything about this subject i'd save a fortune and pay you instead, but alas as you know nothing i'll have to shell out a fortune to the experts. Please dont start PM'ing me like last year when you tried unsuccessfully to lecture me on sports psychology. I passed that course by the way by ignoring your intuitive knowledge and I'll do the same this year.

Well said, there certainly seem to be a lot of so called experts in conditioning on this thread. Like to see any of em run up and down Brantingham Dale

Nailed it.

IMO his role on such things was probably just as a go between and to tidy up the paperwork.

yes, he's been so successful the teams he has conditioned have rarely troubled the playoffs, he is outdated and out of his depth, I am glad he's at KR.

congratulations on passing the course by the way

My reply is pretty much what he and Kosh have said. He'll be involved, but only in putting into action decisions made by others, which IMO doesn't constitute having an influence on the playing side.

I think, and i am only guessing here. it may have something to do with the quality of players/coach dont you think?? You could be the fittest, most ripped sportsman on the planet but if you cant catch a rugby ball or tackle the opposition you are not going to trouble the playoffs as you put it.
didnt we finish 2nd in SL during his time at the club??
Love to know where you get all this in depth knowledge on conditioning?

reading books, articles, having a sports science qualification, having being involved in fitness (admittedly P/T) for 15 years until I quit last year, speaking to players from RL and many other sports.

I am far from an "up to the minute expert", but I do know what has been said to me about Mallinsons practices in the past.

and you?

We don't have a vacancy.

Towards the end of his time at FC questions were being asked about our squad's fitness. You claim he was headhunted to Rovers but IIRC Peter Sharp released him as he wasn't happy with the condition of the players following one pre-season. During recent times questions have also been asked about the fitness of the Rovers squad.

Long service at two of SL's less successful sides isn't really a stunning CV when you think about it.