Wow,that would be radical,playing the reserves next season.

If Friday is out to go by they probably could do no worse.

I agree, i'm still not happy about it now.... If his contract isn't £60k or less, someone needs sacking. He's an average halfback at best and should be our lowest paid one accordingly, particularly what he's earned for being less than average for the last 4/5 years!!

Five years ago was 2006 - the year Horne equalled the club record for tries scored on the way to getting us to the GF alongside Cooke. Get the season review out or look at his stats for that year. Hardly 'less than average'.

2007 was the year Cooke left and Horne had to play most of it as the only halfback. When we got him a partner he played well.

2008 he missed nearly all of due to a serious neck injury. He was also diagnosed as diabetic.

2009 he had to put up with Thorman as a partner and struggled to adjust to his diabetes and possibly his injury.

2010 he was pretty average except for the odd game. I wondered if he was shot and should retire.

2011 after a slow start he's been good in most games and looking more like his old self. He had a poor game last night but so did everyone else.

You clearly have an issue with him that keeps you from analysing his performances rationally. That's OK - you're not alone.

Can't argue with that, it was at that point I finally hoped Horne would stop hiding behind other players and finally step up to the plate. Saying that though he wasn't the reason we got to the GF.



Perfect opportunity for him to step up to the plate and show what he can do. Which we discovered was just an inside ball and the odd sidestep.



Agreed practically a void season for him.



Plus Thorman had to put up with Horne as his partner, the best we ever looked that season seemed to be when Berrigan went into the halves and he was our hooker. The latter part of your sentence I can't agree with, all players have setbacks and all deal with them. Plus getting diabetes shouldn't stop a half back from losing his rugby brain.



I remember he played well the first couple of games then went back to his old self and definitely looked finished at the top level.




He's been good in the games against lower class opposition IMO, he had an OK game against Saints but apart from that done very little to put headlines on pages. OK he may have set up a couple of tries against the lower teams but we as a club need more, especially from a player with 300+ games experience.





I don't think he does, I think he is just seeing what the rest of SL are seeing in that Horne is very overrated / not good enough. I've said it many times before, we need more from a half back the fact he has a very poor long kicking game should have being enough to see him from the club. You yourself have even said that his last 4 years (despite the injuries excuse) he has being very poor. Not the form of a player deserving a new two year deal IMO. I know for a fact that Rich himself didn't even think he was worth a new deal. We've never being troubled for his signature, makes you wonder why.


I'd happily eat humble pie every week from now till the day he leaves the club but I reckon the weeks i'm not eating it outweigh the weeks were I do. Horne isn't a crap player by all means, I mean he's a better player then I am

I just think as a club we should be looking for stand offs with an all round game, IMO he's not cut out to be at a team challenging for silverware. Its player like Danny Nicklas I feel sorry for who will probably on the back of this deal end up getting shipped out of the club at some point in the near future due to not being given a fair chance to shine.

I honestly don't always mean to come across as an anti Horne fan but IMO I just think we could do better. That said I;d always respect the kid for the service he has given the club and some of his tries have being outstanding, but that's a thing of the past these days he can longer do the full distance.

That's a tad unfair IMO. What we discovered is that he simply doesn't have the personality or skill set to be a controlling 7 and never will. He has more than the inside ball and sidestep though - his positional awareness in both attack and defence is excellent, his support play top notch, and he has both a good short pass and short kicking game.


Horne has always relied on strength, athleticism, and a certain amount of pace. All of those were greatly reduced due to his recovery from injury and his diabetes. I do think that you're greatly underestimating the effect diabetes can have on a sportsman, particularly in a fast and high impact sport like RL. It will have effected his ability to train and get into top fitness as well as his matchday performances.


The same can be said to a greater or lesser degree about all of our players this season. I still think that Horne has been among the better and more consistent performers.


The sentence I've highlighted is what I meant when I said there was a lack of rationality in the other posts. They were basically rants about him being worse than useless, which clearly isn't the case.

Horne has weaknesses in his game which have prevented him from becoming a truly top class all-round halfback. No argument there. He worked so well with Cooke because as a pair their strengths and weaknesses complimented each other, and he's not found such a good partner since - although our 7 situation has been chronic ever since Cooke left.

I was ready to see him retire based on the last few seasons. I think he's done enough this season to be worth another chance alongside a fit, organising 7 with a proper kicking game. Personally I was expecting him to be offered 1 year but without knowing the details of his 2 year deal it's difficult to say if it looks like good value or not. There should be plenty of competition for him next season so if he falls short there's certainly no hiding place.

Horne is on a vastly reduced contract - he had options to go to other clubs for around 20k more than what he is on at Hull now.

He owes the club a lot and knows he couldnt command the wage he used to be on, howver he did extremeley well out of his testimonial. I think, FWIW he will be back up to Ellis and Seymour next year and I'm happy to have him as that.

How is it sentiment when he has been playing well again for some time, doing what he does best again for somewhile.
we needed that position filled and so who better than from within???

oh sorry of course i forgot players are dying to play for FC arent they

thats the plan many have on here Paul
get em all on 1 year deals and fire anyone who plays crap for one match

well said , for the record there were actually 4 other clubs sniffed when he was muted to be holding talks.. one of those is top 4 !!!
with the skills coming in he can go back to what he is good at and thats being a finisher not a creator

if we believe "you" people are queing up to play for the best British Coach in SL.

I would love a day in your imagination. I doubt there is a drug on the market (illicit or legal) that could provide that sort of high.

whos he "coah"

???

Fitz, Omeley, Long, Heremia etc etc , done ok for players hasnt he.......
how did the match look on TV by the way

Huddersfield.

standee its called!!

Not got the best out of all of them though has he and we havent seen Heremia play yet...he;l ruin him as well.

Match looked the same as it did at Headingly....fooking e....dont bring that one up as there was nearly another 10,000 fc fans that didnt travel.

Jesus.....you really are 1 deluded poster arent you....your not worth the effort.

then dont waste any on my posts and concentrate on the subject of the thread

If you post on the thread then you are part of it and could be quoted.

happy with that Paul , just didnt see what the last post had to do with the thread ???

How can you ask that when you just posted a kiss smilie...what did the kiss have to do with the thread ? surely you expected a response from that!

You are definitely not a victim! you are as much an instigator as any-one!

Rubbish, there were only 3, however I was surprised when I found out who one was