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| Quote ="Rocknrolla69er"Where will Lovodua slot in when everyone's fit? If it's a choice of Houghton or Lovodua due to everyone being fit I think Houghton misses out.'"
Lovodua will play anywhere to cover injuries like he has this season.
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| I wouldn't have renewed Houghton's contract .
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| Houghtons extra year triggered by him then. Well done whoever designed that.
If we were keeping a utility quota player, I’d have gone for Smith. Lovodua probably cheaper though I imagine.
As he’s here, play him at hooker please.
Is Dwyer only a year as he’s off somewhere else year after next?
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| Quite happy with the Dwyer signing. He's a clear upgrade on Johnstone.
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The next signing is key. If we can bring in an experienced second rower the recruitment looks promising for next year.
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| Quote ="ComeOnYouUll"Quite happy with the Dwyer signing. He's a clear upgrade on Johnstone.
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Liam Sutcliffe
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The next signing is key. If we can bring in an experienced second rower the recruitment looks promising for next year.'"
Hopefully a few more (Shaul, Taylor, Gale, Griffin) added to that Out list.
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| Quote ="Cardiff_05"That’s how I understood it as well. Guessing it’ll be Houghton starting, Dwyer off the bench and Lovodua slotting in somewhere. As long as Dwyer isn’t on a big wage then I can cope with it, but if Houghton had the option to extend his own deal, then it’s hard to justify going into 2023 with four hookers for, at most, two positions. Personally it should be Lovodua, Houghton OR Dwyer and Balmforth.Quote Four is crazy.'" '"
Agree.
If Houghton had another year in his favour than there's nothing the club can do about it.
Dwyer offers something we have lacked for years at dummy half so I'm ok with that plus it's a 1 year deal.
Balmforth should be ready to play next season after having a full pre-season to sort his conditioning out.
Lovodua will be a utility player because we will have the usual nightmare with injuries.
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| Quote ="Rocknrolla69er"Where will Lovodua slot in when everyone's fit? If it's a choice of Houghton or Lovodua due to everyone being fit I think Houghton misses out.'"
We really need a fresh start next season so Lovodua to start at 9 with Dwyer off the bench.
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| Quote ="B0NES"I wouldn't have renewed Houghton's contract .'"
Nor would I but it was Houghton's choice.
A 34 year who is in decline with too many miles on the clock gets to decide if he wants to carry on
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| Is he only on an initial 12 month deal?
The Houghton extension clause should've been in the clubs favour. Doesn't sound like it was.
Reading the press release don't think we'll see much of Lovodua at 9.
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| With Trueman likely to be out early season I can see Lovodua challenging McNamara for the half back slot.
Not great.
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| The whole release is a bit oddly worded. It says they are all contracted until at least 2023 but doesn't explicitly state Dwyers contract length.
Not entirely sold on Dwyer but at least he's a bit different to our current options and I'll reserve judgement until he's actually played for us.
4 hookers may seem a lot but given an injury nightmare seems to be an annual occurrence these days I'm sure they'll all get a game!
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| Potential for a massive turnover of players year after next. Loads of players OOC.
Wonder if the club are keeping their financial options open?
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| Quote ="mwindass"Is he only on an initial 12 month deal?
The Houghton extension clause should've been in the clubs favour. Doesn't sound like it was.
Quote Reading the press release don't think we'll see much of Lovodua at 9.'" '"
The only position I think he could do a decent job permanently is 13 but there's a lot of competition there. Lane or Cator or a extra prop.
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| Good signing for me we need something different at acting half and he certainly brings that as he's good at varying play. As for the two extensions, well, I find that mystifying, money is tight and there are some real priority areas for improvement so what club in that position with the current salary cap limitations carries three hookers and also has one of the best young hookers in the British game knocking on the door.
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| Dwyer added "the opportunity come on at the 72 minute mark as an impact 13 when the game is already gone was too good an opportunity to turn down"
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| Quote ="The Dentist Wilf"Good signing for me we need something different at acting half and he certainly brings that as he's good at varying play. As for the two extensions, well, I find that mystifying, money is tight and there are some real priority areas for improvement so what club in that position with the current salary cap limitations carries three hookers and also has one of the best young hookers in the British game knocking on the door.'"
The bit about Houghton seems to say he has used his option to extend...i.e we dont have a choice. Without reading his contract we will never know!
As for Joe it may be we got him cheap as an unknown and maybe his 2nd year is a cheap wage too.
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| Quote ="Irregular Hoops"Potential for a massive turnover of players year after next. Loads of players OOC.
Wonder if the club are keeping their financial options open?'"
Seems a deliberate move from Pearson to have so many deals run out in 2023 and I can understand why, its the last year of a reduced SKY deal and who knows what the future may bring?
another reduction in SKY deal and a mooted 2 leagues of 10 format may mean less games so a smaller squad needed...and we'd be on the verge of relegation to SL2 and off to Batley next year if it was happening this season!
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| TBH Lovodua has only shined because the rest have being very poor. Often thought hes not a very smart player and wouldnt have lost any sleep had he not stayed.
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| Quote ="RockNRolla"We really need a fresh start next season so Lovodua to start at 9 with Dwyer off the bench.'"
so we pay Houghton to be a a water boy.
You can see it now Houghton destined to be given a job for the boys as he is a Hull boy
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| Quote ="Marcus's Bicycle"Agree.
If Houghton had another year in his favour than there's nothing the club can do about it.
Dwyer offers something we have lacked for years at dummy half so I'm ok with that plus it's a 1 year deal.
Balmforth should be ready to play next season after having a full pre-season to sort his conditioning out.
Lovodua will be a utility player because we will have the usual nightmare with injuries.'"
Absolute joke Houghton can basically sign his deal himself
Sort of sums up the club last 3 or 4 years giving players deals based on 2016
Least dwyer will prove how limited Houghton is and that will be the end for Houghton
Will be a legend for tackle 52 but others no attack
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| Quote ="Irregular Hoops"Potential for a massive turnover of players year after next. Loads of players OOC.
Wonder if the club are keeping their financial options open?'"
Yes i was looking at this
Seriously think Pearson is writing off next season thats why he is so quiet on the current situation.
Unless we can add a really powerful second row and possibly another front row to replace Taylor who is becoming an embarrassment this team will struggle next season.
I have no faith in this coach and i dont believe Pearson does either,but he has made the decision to run with him for economy reasons as he knows next seasons passholders and gates will be hugely down on numbers and if as i expect licensing comes in for 2024 then relegation will not be a threat
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| Quote ="bonaire"Yes i was looking at this
Seriously think Pearson is writing off next season thats why he is so quiet on the current situation.
Unless we can add a really powerful second row and possibly another front row to replace Taylor who is becoming an embarrassment this team will struggle next season.
I have no faith in this coach and i dont believe Pearson does either,but he has made the decision to run with him for economy reasons as he knows next seasons passholders and gates will be hugely down on numbers and if as i expect licensing comes in for 2024 then relegation will not be a threat'"
I dont agree, Pearson isnt daft enough to expect the club to serve up another year of dross and still have people wanting to buy passes for 2024. He will know deep down that we wont have the squad to challenge for the top spots next year, but he will be expecting a return to the top6.
I also think he has faith in Hodgson, even though I pesonally don't. I agree need more fire power in the forwards of we face another mixed year.
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| Not sold on Dwyer signing but give him the benefit of at least having something about him in wanting to spark things off when he comes on.
The extension of Houghton for another year is just a crazy situation to be in if it was in Houghtons hands to trigger the deal. Talk about no control on retention by the club. For me Houghton as good a servant he was should have gone end of this season. It’s disappointing he’s decided to go round again when he offers very little now. In a sport with s small cap having Dwyer, Lovodua, Balmforth and Houghton is a total waste and yet more imbalance in the squad when we have very weak/lightweight looking SR options for next season.
Really don’t see much changing for next season when the likes of Houghton, Taylor, Shaul & Gale should be moved on.
Letting a player who has been pretty poor for the last couple of seasons snd openly admitted he’d lost the love for the game to be able to reward himself with an extension shows why the club under AP and JC is in a mess
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| Quote ="UllFC"I dont agree, Pearson isnt daft enough to expect the club to serve up another year of dross and still have people wanting to buy passes for 2024. He will know deep down that we wont have the squad to challenge for the top spots next year, but he will be expecting a return to the top6.
I also think he has faith in Hodgson, even though I pesonally don't. I agree need more fire power in the forwards of we face another mixed year.'"
Well look at it this way.Unless there is an exciting signing or two coming in which i doubt then pass sales and gate receipts will be well down
in fact i will say HKR will have more passholders than we will have for 2023.
Then you look at all the players off contract for 2024 and the ability to bring in some big names for 2024 then thats the way to rebuild the squad again hopefully under another coach and create some excitement for fans to re purchase passes.
Hope i am wrong but about Pearson writing off next season but it fits with what is happening now at the club
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| - Quote ="bonaire"Well look at it this way.Unless there is an exciting signing or two coming in which i doubt then pass sales and gate receipts will be well down
in fact i will say HKR will have more passholders than we will have for 2023.
Then you look at all the players off contract for 2024 and the ability to bring in some big names for 2024 then thats the way to rebuild the squad again hopefully under another coach and create some excitement for fans to re purchase passes.
Hope i am wrong but about Pearson writing off next season but it fits with what is happening now at the club'"
Doubt it, anyway clubs don't tend to publish those figures. In terms of seasonal average attendances ours hasn't been lower than Rovers since 1977-78.
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