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| Quote ="Mr. Zucchini Head"I think you are being a bit disingenuous calling it a shove in the back. It was pretty forceful and Satae is a big guy. You saw how much his neck snapped back.'"
There are plenty of people who have met their maker being hit under the chin, not so many being shoved in the back, unless of course your on a cliff edge as such, or under a train perhaps. I’m not being disingenuous, our opinions obviously differ on the severity of the punishment doled out, a dumb shove as I said, compared to an attack to the head and neck area is deemed equal. Although the referee decided to give Satae no more than a talking to, and yet Chris Hill was red carded.
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| Expected a ban to fair but think 3 games is very harsh. Would have said 2 games maximum. As long they dish out the same bans for similar throughout the rest of the season then fair enough.
Was still a needless and dumb tackle which makes it even worse.
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| Quote ="Riderofthepalehorse"There are plenty of people who have met their maker being hit under the chin, not so many being shoved in the back, unless of course your on a cliff edge as such, or under a train perhaps. I’m not being disingenuous, our opinions obviously differ on the severity of the punishment doled out, a dumb shove as I said, compared to an attack to the head and neck area is deemed equal. Although the referee decided to give Satae no more than a talking to, and yet Chris Hill was red carded.'"
People who have been hit under the chin and met their maker as you put it, have done so usually as a consequence of their head hitting a concrete floor. I actually knew someone that that happened to a few years ago In Hull. Been practically bulldozed in the back as what happened on Friday and committed by Satae, was both unnecessary and cowardly. Such force in the back, especially when the person on the receiving end is relaxed can quite easily cause a serious spinal injury or possibly worse. It's basically a similar effect as when been hit from behind when you're sat in a stationery car and someone drives into the back of you at just 20 mph, though at least the car does offer some degree of protection. I know what that feels like and the nasty long term injuries it can cause.
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| Stupid tackle and puts us on the back foot with Ma'u, Ellis, Faraimo, Cator, Kelly currently unavailable and Fonua lacking match fitness. Only round 3 as well.
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| 3 matches is ridiculous. It was marginally late and he barged the player over. No contact to the head or anything. How that warrants the same penalty as hill nearly decapitating powell god only knows. Should have been a warning at most
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| Quote ="Seventies red"People who have been hit under the chin and met their maker as you put it, have done so usually as a consequence of their head hitting a concrete floor. I actually knew someone that that happened to a few years ago In Hull. Been practically bulldozed in the back as what happened on Friday and committed by Satae, was both unnecessary and cowardly. Such force in the back, especially when the person on the receiving end is relaxed can quite easily cause a serious spinal injury or possibly worse. It's basically a similar effect as when been hit from behind when you're sat in a stationery car and someone drives into the back of you at just 20 mph, though at least the car does offer some degree of protection. I know what that feels like and the nasty long term injuries it can cause.'"
Hi Seventies red, I’ve not condoned, nor endorsed Satae shove, the main point is Powell was left knocked out, and his game over, Hill was red carded, and subsequently done for three matches.
Satae shoved Lawler I think, late and deliberate, Hicks spoke to him, correctly giving a penalty, no more punishment was deemed applicable, George didn’t appear injured, or concerned, I don’t think he even put it on report, whilst I empathise with anyone who has been injured in any kind of collision, deliberate or not. The punishment does not fit the offence, hope your fully recovered now from your accident.
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"3 matches is ridiculous. It was marginally late and he barged the player over. No contact to the head or anything. How that warrants the same penalty as hill nearly decapitating powell god only knows. Should have been a warning at most'"
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| Apparently we are appealing the ban tonight so expect it to be increased!
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"3 matches is ridiculous. It was marginally late and he barged the player over. No contact to the head or anything. How that warrants the same penalty as hill nearly decapitating powell god only knows. Should have been a warning at most'"
The contact was late, cowardly and dumb. Especially dumb from Satae who has arrived from playing in the NRL where this kind of tackle has been cracked down on for the past couple of seasons.
Trust other players in SL will now receive the message.
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| just watched my dvd of the ccwin against wigan2017.15 minutes from ft,talanoa pushed marshall in the back,and ref benthan never said a word about it.do the same thing 3years later and you get done for 3 matches.
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| Satae has his ban reduced to two matches.
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| Quote ="Riderofthepalehorse"Satae has his ban reduced to two matches.'"
Fair enough IMO. Didn't like it.
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"Fair enough IMO. Didn't like it.'"
Didn’t like what Mrs B the ban or the shove.
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| Quote ="Riderofthepalehorse"Didn’t like what Mrs B the ban or the shove.'"
The shove. Naughty.
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| Quote ="Riderofthepalehorse"Hi Seventies red, I’ve not condoned, nor endorsed Satae shove, the main point is Powell was left knocked out, and his game over, Hill was red carded, and subsequently done for three matches.
Satae shoved Lawler I think, late and deliberate, Hicks spoke to him, correctly giving a penalty, no more punishment was deemed applicable, George didn’t appear injured, or concerned, I don’t think he even put it on report, whilst I empathise with anyone who has been injured in any kind of collision, deliberate or not. The punishment does not fit the offence, hope your fully recovered now from your accident.'"
It was some time ago now but Yes thanks I did recover. Some woman on her mobile phone while driving, ran into the back of me and a couple of friends who were also in our stationary car at the time when travelling home from work. She was only doing around 20 to 25 mph at the time but it was enough to cause injury to all three of us. I got off fairly lightly considering, but my mate who was in the rear seat when it happened, was off work for several weeks with a serious neck injury. When will some people learn that you can't be on your mobile whist driving.
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| Quote ="Seventies red"It was some time ago now but Yes thanks I did recover. Some woman on her mobile phone while driving, ran into the back of me and a couple of friends who were also in our stationary car at the time when travelling home from work. She was only doing around 20 to 25 mph at the time but it was enough to cause injury to all three of us. I got off fairly lightly considering, but my mate who was in the rear seat when it happened, was off work for several weeks with a serious neck injury. When will some people learn that you can't be on your mobile whist driving.'"
Glad your ok now, it seems there’s traffic accidents nearly everyday in Hull.
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| Quote ="Riderofthepalehorse"Glad your ok now, it seems there’s traffic accidents nearly everyday in Hull.'"
It would appear so wouldn't it. I noticed a crash barrier down Holdernes road today had practically been obliterated. It's usually down to a combination of factors including trafic congestion, lack of awareness and poor judgment by the drivers. Plus just pure bad driving by some. I see some and think to myself, how the hell did they manage to pass their driving test?
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| Grade reduced from C to B.
The actual description of the offence ("a defending player makes contact makes contact with an opponent after the ball has been released by an opponent in a vulnerable position which causes excessive flexion to the head, neck or spinal column."icon_wink.gif can be be graded from A to D, so the penalty seems to involve a lot of guesswork.
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| RFL do need to cut out the cheap shots which Satae did but let's hope they are consistent which has always been the problem.
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| Quote ="ccs"Grade reduced from C to B.
The actual description of the offence ("a defending player makes contact makes contact with an opponent after the ball has been released by an opponent in a vulnerable position which causes excessive flexion to the head, neck or spinal column."icon_wink.gif can be be graded from A to D, so the penalty seems to involve a lot of guesswork.'"
In case anyone was wondering what I was on about, the charge says he =#FF0000actually caused excessive flexion to the head, neck or spinal column.
How does the disciplinary panel know that happened? By video, a statement from the player, or maybe a medical report?
If the charge had said "could cause", then there would be no issue.
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| Quote ="Seventies red"It was some time ago now but Yes thanks I did recover. Some woman on her mobile phone while driving, ran into the back of me and a couple of friends who were also in our stationary car at the time when travelling home from work. She was only doing around 20 to 25 mph at the time but it was enough to cause injury to all three of us. I got off fairly lightly considering, but my mate who was in the rear seat when it happened, was off work for several weeks with a serious neck injury. When will some people learn that you can't be on your mobile whist driving.'"
Let me guess, you all got 3k compensation whiplash claim
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| Quote ="MorningGlory23"Let me guess, you all got 3k compensation whiplash claim'"
No doubt represented by The Ambulance Chaser, himself.
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| Quote ="Armavinit"No doubt represented by The Ambulance Chaser, himself.'"
Actually, the two of us in the front didn't put in a claim, but the guy sat in the back did and rightly so. He suffered an injury that was worse than just whiplash. His injury was quite serious, something to do with two vertebrae in his spine which required an operation to correct. He lost the feeling in one arm for several weeks and was off work for quite a while afterwards.
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| How did Satae get 3 games (2 on appeal) and Kelly get two games when Bodene Thomson doesn’t get anything other than SOS for his deliberate shoulder charge with direct contact with the head???
Fooking RFL disciplinary proving yet again not fit for purpose with huge inconsistency in its decisions on incidents and punishments.
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| Quote ="Chris71"How did Satae get 3 games (2 on appeal) and Kelly get two games when Bodene Thomson doesn’t get anything other than SOS for his deliberate shoulder charge with direct contact with the head???
Fooking RFL disciplinary proving yet again not fit for purpose with huge inconsistency in its decisions on incidents and punishments.'"
Adams notes this week highlight these perceived injustices, inviting Mr Cullen for lunch, to find out the reason we have upset him
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