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| Quote ="jools"Lol. I'm loving the attempt at justification- I'm pretty sure if taai took out lineham in a similar manner the story would be different. All except hull fans think the decision to charge him is correct- all this fuss. Does his shoulder hit him in his shoulder first? Hmmm. What about his left hand which is above shoulder height.
Stop your whining- of you spent as much time getting behind your side as whining about how badly done to you are you might actually inspire them to win a game!'"
Crabtree on Miller???
Crabtree made no attempt to wrap his arms round. Just went in with the shoulder. You going to say Crabtree never saw him??
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| Quote ="jools"Lol. I'm loving the attempt at justification- I'm pretty sure if taai took out lineham in a similar manner the story would be different. All except hull fans think the decision to charge him is correct- all this fuss. Does his shoulder hit him in his shoulder first? Hmmm. What about his left hand which is above shoulder height.
Stop your whining- of you spent as much time getting behind your side as whining about how badly done to you are you might actually inspire them to win a game!'"
Considering your average attendances and the pathetic effort you made at the KC yesterday, I wouldn't go down the better fans route, if I was you.
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| I can't imagine Ellis deliberately hitting anyone with the front of his shoulder.
He'd be risking a broken collar bone or dislocation.
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| Quote ="brearley84"gardner fell into mullally and we still got our try chalked off and a penalty to saints! just how it is, think yourself lucky you got a try out of it'"
and that's how it was yesterday, bentham saw nothing wrong with it!
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| He probably knew when he made the tackle he was going to get into trouble over it...the desperation in trying to justify/defend the fact he's been charged is laughable on here. Most of you at the game probably expected he'd get in trouble fo it if your honest.
Hits like that will always get players into trouble, no blubbering or straw clutching will change that.
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| Quote ="GIANT DAZ"He probably knew when he made the tackle he was going to get into trouble over it...the desperation in trying to justify/defend the fact he's been charged is laughable on here. Most of you at the game probably expected he'd get in trouble fo it if your honest.
Hits like that will always get players into trouble, no blubbering or straw clutching will change that.'"
No one cares what you think
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| The amount of Giants fans on this thread and they all have selective posting it seems as they all seem to ignore the question re Crabtree on Miller with his blatant shoulder.
For me there was nothing wrong in the tackle and had Robinson got up like Miller did no action would have been taken. The RFL are showing again what an incompetent bunch they are re disciplinary as the Justin Poore tackle was more pure luck that McDonnel landed on his back, yet he gets a slap on the wrist & why because & quote 'player lands on back'. It was a dangerous and illegal tackle regardless.
The issue regarding smaller players V bigger players is something that needs looking at as they also have a responsibility to be aware and for me Robinson faffed for ages then turned straight into an on rushing Ellis and his chest there was only going to be one outcome.
The game is getting soft and is becoming more like touch rugby than ever. Refs don't even have the bottle to use a yellow let alone reds for incidents instead copping out if making a decision and putting it on report.
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| More GIant supporters posting on here then hudds average home crowd. Impressive
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| Looks like Ellis has his arm round Robinsons back to me
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| Quote ="GEvans75"More GIant supporters posting on here then hudds average home crowd. Impressive'"
and, as ever, those posting on here aren't a true representation of must Huddersfield fans, they're just noisy idiots.
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| Quote ="GEvans75"More GIant supporters posting on here then hudds average home crowd. Impressive'"
and, as ever, those posting on here aren't a true representation of must Huddersfield fans, they're just noisy idiots.
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| doesn't matter if you "faf" or not you still cant put your shoulder into somebody's head and height doesn't come into it, if you cant put a big tackle in with good tackling technique better not put in the big shot or get rightfully suspended.
That picture is embarrassing its that pixelated you cant make out anything on the video (3.49 min) you can clearly see that ellis shoulder makes contact with the back of robinsons head and its a sending off.
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| Quote ="dubairl" waffle waffle <snip> ... its a sending off.'"
But it wasn't.
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| Quote ="slimez"But it wasn't.'"
yes and hence andersons rant and now he has been charged with a grade b offense
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| Quote ="dubairl"yes and hence andersons rant and now he has been charged with a grade b offense
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so why wasn't Crabtree?
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| Quote ="Standee"so why wasn't Crabtree?'"
Because no one cried loud enough about that one ....
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| Quote ="Standee"so why wasn't Crabtree?'"
im not a huddersfield fan and i didn't get to see the incident on the highlights, but if a shoulder has made contact with the head then the same applies, but a shoulder charge isn't a ban its just a penalty as long as it isn't high
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| At full speed it looks to me like ellis' chest hits robinson on the back/shoulder. His head hits the floor which is what probably knocked him out. robinson actually looks like he's leaning forward and his head is nowhere near ellis. He'll still cop a ban, no doubt
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| as I've said on our forum, I don't think there was any intent or maliciousness from ellis, It looked worse from the stand.
after seeing the replay it was dangerous and possibly wreckless but no intent to harm,a big man going in fast and hard on a little guy is almost always going to cause problems.
I think a penalty at the time and a word about his tackling technique would have sufficed, I think a ban would be harsh on him.
as for the crabtree on miller, again, I can only go by what I saw from the stand, and that was that Eorl went to shut him down and mistimed it, I didn't see a shoulder charge from where I was behind the posts, if ,as you guys say, it was a shoulder charge then the officials have either missed it or chosen to ignore it, im sure the disciplinary panel would have picked up on it too.
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| Quote ="dubairl"doesn't matter if you "faf" or not you still cant put your shoulder into somebody's head and height doesn't come into it, if you cant put a big tackle in with good tackling technique better not put in the big shot or get rightfully suspended.
That picture is embarrassing its that pixelated you cant make out anything on the video (3.49 min) you can clearly see that ellis shoulder makes contact with the back of robinsons head and its a sending off.'"
I saw the incident live and I have seen the YT footage. You cannot clearly see Ellis'shoulder hit anything. You see Robinson cleaned out. Of anything hits robin sons head, it Ellis' chest.
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| Quote ="heard1989"Crabtree on Miller???
Crabtree made no attempt to wrap his arms round. Just went in with the shoulder. You going to say Crabtree never saw him??'"
Difficult to comment as i never saw it.
But interestingly The ref did not penalise it, or the linesman or the disciplinary review panel as being foul play .
Yet in the same game Ellis gets a Grade B charge for one piece of foul play and a Caution for a second piece of foul play in the same game.
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| Quote ="Birkbygiant"
Good luck on Saturday, you'll need it big style if you're going to get too many decisions in France.'"
Hope Anderson gets banned for calling the officials muppets
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| I thought Eorl just ran over Miller as he closed him down on the last tackle....knocking him over due to size difference , cant recall any howls of derision in the stands or players or even coaches making a fuss about it either, but hey, you lot insisted Ellis was innocent so Eorl must be guilty of a shoulder charge right ?....shame the RFL and the disciplinary commitee aren't as one-eyed as you lot in defeat.
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