Quote ="Mrs Barista"The other point to note is the relative cost of these established NRL coaches and their backroom teams. The NRL has had to impose a cap on spend on football departments- excluding player salaries; the average club spend is 6.3 million Aus dollars or £3.4m. Little wonder we see so few genuine top current Aussie coaches here. Craig Bellamy for example is on $1.7m p.a. https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.smh.co ... xpi4i.html Obviously you can dip into the assistant / out of work ex coaching pool. Again, sometimes this works and if it does they're off back to Aus pretty quickly. More often it doesn't, obviously. Not to say it's a bad idea, just pointing out that making the generalisation that this would guarantee improvement is flawed.'" Well the ones that are here are not doing so bad are they,top two teams by a mile. Leeds and Huddersfield on the up also

Quote ="Mrs Barista"The other point to note is the relative cost of these established NRL coaches and their backroom teams. The NRL has had to impose a cap on spend on football departments- excluding player salaries; the average club spend is 6.3 million Aus dollars or £3.4m. Little wonder we see so few genuine top current Aussie coaches here. Craig Bellamy for example is on $1.7m p.a. https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.smh.co ... xpi4i.html Obviously you can dip into the assistant / out of work ex coaching pool. Again, sometimes this works and if it does they're off back to Aus pretty quickly. More often it doesn't, obviously. Not to say it's a bad idea, just pointing out that making the generalisation that this would guarantee improvement is flawed.'" Well the ones that are here are not doing so bad are they,top two teams by a mile. Leeds and Huddersfield on the up also

Leeds, on the up?

Five of the bottom six have a head coach from Down Under.

Given some of Hulls results over the past 12 months it's fairly obvious that Radfords position will be under scrutiny. Same with Sheen's across the river.

Worth noting though that on the Forty 20 live podcast last night, a journalist claimed/stated that a big off field story is about to break at Hull FC that will be having a destabilising effect.

In short, we don't always know the circumstances that a coach is working under. Best to maybe cut a bit of slack until the news emerges.

I think 90% of the forum have deduced there’s problems behind the scenes, the problem is without club information, rumours run rife.

Seemed to me he was alluding to financial issues.

Like they cant pay to get Hull Fc Live back up and running

Could he have the wrong club, Crossland has just quit at Rovers?

Now that Crossland has gone, leaving Pearson and Hudgell in sole charge of our respective clubs it is going to be very interesting to see how closely aligned they make us.

My prediction is that inside 12 months both Clubs, along with COHA will be sharing a training base. From there, who knows..

Wash your mouth out son, don’t even go there. There’s only one place a merger would go, straight down the Humber via a pan.

Do we have financial issues? Someone mentioned pearson had said he was looking for investment in the club and he's not been heard of in the media for some time now. Wouldn't surprise me TBH. We've been cutting pretty much every budget at the club for some years now

The Round Eight Super League games generated an aggregate crowd of 49,992 and an average attendance of 8,332. Last season the Round Eight aggregate was 59,137 with an average of 9,856. That's a drop of 17% with over 1,500 missing supporters at each game. #NewBeginnings

Smaller gates = smaller income. I’m beginning to wonder what our finances are like? Me thinks AP is short on disposable income.

Last year's round 8 was the derbies, not a fair comparison.

You can't compare round for round, too many variables.

Here it is Jake, it’s a small paragraph from AP, you can read the full account in the chairman’s notes. Apologies if I’m contravening any forum rules, it’s meant only as reference.

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There is no one presently interested in personally investing to get on the Board of Hull FC. Other clubs such as Warrington and Saints attract investment at Board level, but here at Hull that investment in club shares is very hard to find.”

That does sound a lot like I am sick of bankrolling the club, which explains our recruitment and retention and keeping a cheap coach on.

What is Radford's salary and how does it compare to the other eleven Super League head coaches?

I'm sure he'll do some dilligent detective work and come up with the answer to your question [inot[/i anytime soon.

Why don't they let supporters buy shares in the club like they used to.

Exactly this

I think they generally want ongoing ‘investment’.

If it is a nominal amount from fans it doesn’t make much difference. If it were more significant amounts, by normal income standards, then people might start to feel that they should have a say in how things are run. Managing a small number of relationships that each yield a large injection of capital is easier than managing a larger number than each provide less. That said, if the first isn’t an option looking to work with a supporters organisation could be a good idea - better than hundreds or thousands of individual small shareholders, imo.

Dabhand, I think I still have my £25 share issue from the last share issue offered by Hull rlfc, unfortunately as mildrover has alluded to, AP is probably looking for much more substantial investment.

But doesnt the club generally make a profit anyway so running to full cap, having the training base and renting the kc is allowing us to tick over nicely. A few extra grand on a top notch coaching team is all that people want. If and i know its an IF performances improve a few people will return and even a 10% improvement in attendances will boost the clubs coffers and pay for said coaching team/a marquee player - continuing as we are is only going to lose fans as people will not pay big money to watch the half hearted dross we currently serve. I now pick and choose my games due to cost but its hard when you pick a game, take your family then the team get tonked or dont look bothered. Last time we went my kids said it was boring and they didnt want to come anymore and i bet im not the only one

If we are struggling financially, I would hate to think where we would be without the (rumoured) 500k we made from the Australia trip, and the 2 x Challenge Cup wins

I doubt we are having money issues, AP is paying above the cap, with loaning players out and loopholes.

We just haven't been smart with using our cap and recruitment, one down side to success is that players can demand more money, so it's hard to manage, Connor and Sneyd are examples of this, Connor has a great season and impressed for England and he gets a new contract and pay rise to stop him leaving.

The good thing is that we are in a position next season to make some changes and get our squad back on track

I agree Dave, but as in his notes, AP seems to have changed tack, we’re once he seemed to be insistent on being in complete control, does he now want to go with a board system, he has the right to change his thinking of course.