This team just isn't good enough. Surely time for Smith to blood some of the youngster's.

How many weeks have we said our last tackle options have been poor.
Today they are p-ss poor

If he doesn't, questions need to be asked of him, with regards selection.

If its cap, they need to satly so, can't justify picking some of these players in front of those who played for the reserves today.

Agree. Oh well home for an evening Bar b q

Before the season started my concern was that we were weak in the back row. Savellio is injury prone. Griffin wasn't even a back rower before this season. Cator had spent so much time out injured.

We then decide to release Griffin when he was our best performer in the back row. Absolutely zero ambition from the club to strengthen that area in a full year. You either want to attempt to succeed or not. Our club opted for the latter.

Huge strides need to be made next season or we're gonna be in the relegation battle because this season hasn't been much of a competitive league compared with other seasons. Leeds, Warrington, Huddersfield and Castleford have all been poor. St Helens have had their poorest season for years and Wigan have been up and down. Catalans have been the most consistent and they aren't anything special.

Very poor season overall. Roll on 2024.

never
we have the best team for several years
The best invisible pro active owner in S/L
The best baffling dogmatic coach in S/L

I feel the penny is starting to drop with some on here. It's taken a while.

We already have one in Sutcliffe tbf, he's been on the money whenever he's taken the duties this year.

He is, but seems to be injured a bit too much to get going.

. so what do you suggest then…you’re like a lot on here…you spout off but don’t have a answer

Smith team selection was just p15s poor today even with the lack of options we’d have been better served playong some of the young lads today. Staveley and Balmforth if they are part of the future. Instead he goes with players that have simply not been good enough most of not all season.

There was very little team performance and most that are leaving seemed to just be playing their own game.

Whether the play offs were or are gone the level of performance should still remain but today same as last week they’ve clocked off and once again dished up an awful performance and this week very little effort with it.

Evening Adam.

Injuries happen in a contact sport….been a very good signing but I may be in the minority and not in the cuddle crew.

Unfortunately, I think it's a waiting game, have to hope we start producing youngsters good enough for SL, next season might be slightly better, but we won't be challenging, looking at our out and incomings.

Do the fans have that patience though?

Not really…was on here years ago and decided to come back on after reading on and off for last few years.Not answers question though have you

Just watched the Leeds prop 2nd and 3rd try on Twitter, the efforts from Savilo and Lane for the 2nd and Sataes and Shauls for the last are awful.

The first try in the 2md half isn't pretty viewing either, too many to name on that one.

I agree on waiting game,Smith has has to sort out the crap show left by Radford,last and Hodgson and Pearson does take some of thae blame as well but so does Clark…Smith has made some decisions that may baffle us but we don’t know what goes on behind the scenes..as for money for players..we had a lot toied up in salary’s pn Radders mates and the have now been got rid of…let’s wait and see what Smiths team is next season before we judge him.

Barring a 5 minute period in the 2nd half our defensive intensity was like the start of the season again. No line speed, just standing off, no bite to the contact, struggling to put players down, just not at the level it needed to be.
Again, like last week, we had enough ball to win the game but our attacking shape seems to have vanished of late.

To be fair you’d expect Satae to have had a big game against the side Leeds put out today but he was pretty poor, actually thought Brown had a good game and made some metres.

Lane just another game were he’s failed to perform this season, Lovodua another who was just a body out there as offered sod all going forward or in defence but they weren’t had only ones. The number of missed tackles was pathetic along our end of sets, don’t think we know how to sustain pressure at all. Line speed again has gone awol and no intensity.

May as well use the remain games to give the young players game time as certainly won’t don’t any worse than some of those on the pitch today.

Agree thought.

Dywer though, been absolutely awful last two games, came on for 12 minutes didn't he today, what's the point, have Balmforth on the bench, give him the 12 minutes.
.Just doesn't make sense.

Lane, Shaul, Lovodua, got to be better playing the some of the kids.

Smith isn't my concern. It's his first year. First year to see what needs doing. Second year to make improvements. Third year to reach potential. He still has a couple of years credit with me.

You can keep calling Radford all you like but he put trophies in the cabinet and made us one of the top teams in the land. If Smith can match his success then I'll be happy.

No relegation in the traditional sense next year or moving forwards. As long as you stay in the MKM, your top flight status is pretty much secure, irrespective of results on the pitch. Unless and until they change the system again.

There’s still a part of me that expects a tah-dah reveal in among your remaining new signing announcements. But it feels increasingly likely to me that Hull are taking the opportunity afforded by the existential threat of relegation being removed to adopt a financially prudent approach. Paying off some of the debt from the COVID pandemic etc.

If they are going to be going with ‘patience’, they need to be really careful with the comms around that. Rovers were much too open about it in 2012 and again in 2016. But, equally, it looks ridiculous to say the opposite. That may explain Pearson’s low profile and Smith’s studious ambiguity in interviews.

Think he will need two more years.

Yes Radforrd will be forever remembered for Wembley but my god,we had some fearsome bartering sunder him…I’d take Smiths success and teams style over Radfords

For me yes Radford brought 2 cup wins but that just papers over the damage done during his tenure.